Inside PR
Inside PR is a weekly Canadian podcast about public relations. Agency veterans Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman co-host the half-hour show. Each week, the guys will take a look under the hood of the public relations industry, explore topical and provocative issues, discuss listener comments, and even interview an interesting guest or two. Inside PR welcomes and depends on listener comments to ensure the continuing relevance of the show. Listeners can comment directly on the podcast blog at www.insidepr.ca or, even better, send in an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com. If you’re already a business communicator or are looking to break into public relations, or even if you’re in another field but understand that communications, reputation, and image make and break organizations, listen to Inside PR.
display_podcast] Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones have an in-depth discussion about media measurement. 00:26 Dave opens the show. 00:41 Terry talks about IPR's brand new theme music, written by Damon de Szegheo. 03:00 This week's topic was "ripped from the headlines," as Dave says. Terry and Dave have a discussion about media measurement sparked by a story Terry read covering Guy Laliberte's trip to the moon. 20:02 Terry introduces this week's -30- segment. 21:49 Terry closes the show. Our theme music was created by Damon de Szegheo; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss PR agencies, then and now. 00:28 Terry opens the show. 00:48 Terry congratulates Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson for producing their 500th episode of For Immediate Release. 02:03 Terry notes that Dave tweeted about a recent ranking of Canada's podcasts by Sean McGaughey. 04:13 Terry introduces this week's topic: Pr agencies, then and now. The topic is broken down into three discussion points: finance, operations and the work itself (in that order). 27:00 Terry introduces the -30- segment, which includes a Ron Burgundy reference this week. 30:08 Dave closes the show. Our theme music was created by Damon de Szegheo; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman have an in-depth discussion about etiquette in public relations based on their interview with Louise Armstrong. 00:26 Terry opens the show. 01:08 Martin talks about this week's 4Q's with Louise Armstrong, co-founder of Palette PR. 02:09 Terry and Martin have a brief discussion about issues management regarding the H1N1 flu virus. 08:38 Martin and Terry discuss the importance of etiquette in the practice of PR based on their interview with Louise. 19:04 Terry kicks off this week's -30- segment. 21:09 Martin closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman have an in-depth discussion about PR and advertising based on their interview with Steve Rubel. 00:26 Terry opens the show. 01:27 Dave introduces this week's 4Q segment with Edelman's Steve Rubel. 05:52 Dave, Terry and Martin have a lengthy discussion stemming from Steve Rubel's responses to the 4Q's. 19:56 Terry introduces the -30- segment. 23:08 Martin closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman interview Alan Chumley and discuss PR measurement. 00:28 Terry opens the show. 00:40 Dave introduces this week's topic: PR measurement. 00:45 Dave recently sat down with his friend and former colleague, Alan Chumley of PROOPH PR, to discuss measurement. Note: Alan will be speaking at a CCPRF event tonight. 02:01 Dave introduces 4Q's with Alan Chumley. 07:42 Dave, Terry and Martin give us an idea of what their measurement wishlist, as it relates to PR outcomes, might look like. 28:39 Martin introduces this week's -30- segment. 31:42 Dave closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the recent guideline changes by the FTC regarding bloggers. 00:25 Terry opens the show. 00:52 Terry gives a shout-out to Sallie Goetsch and Jody Koehler for their recent comments. 01:24 Martin introduces this week's topic: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) recently changed some rules regarding bloggers. 10:53 Producer's Note: The IPR episode Martin is referring to is #161. 19:49 Martin introduces this week's -30- segment. 22:27 Dave closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the future of media relations as social media continues to grow. 00:25 Terry opens the show. 01:34 Terry opens a discussion about the relationship between media relations and social media within the PR industry. 23:01 Terry introduces this week's -30- segment. 25:52 Dave closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss topics brought up in their interview with Mitch Joel and wrap up the show with their new segment "30." 00:24 Martin opens the show. 00:37 Terry introduces the 4Qs segment with Mitch Joel, author of "Six Pixels of Separation." 12:56 Martin, Terry and Dave have a discussion based on some of the topics brought up in their Mitch Joel interview. 23:56 Martin introduces this week's edition of "30." 26:20 Terry closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss topics brought up in their interview with Shel Israel and wrap up the show with their new segment "30." 00:27 Dave opens the show. 01:03 Martin introduces the interview he did with Shel Israel at Third Tuesday Toronto. 05:03 The guys discuss Shel's interview at length and talk about how much social media might be too much in client PR projects. 21:28 Dave introduces this week's edition of "30." 23:52 Dave closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. 00:34 Terry opens the show. 00:53 Terry, Dave and Martin talk about what they've been up to over the summer and the new IPR. 03:57 Terry tells us that IPR is now on Twitter: @inside_pr 07:44 Dave mentions that an interview with Shel Israel will likely be recorded this week at Third Tuesday Toronto and featured on IPR. Note: Shel Isreal is currently on a cross-Canada book launch for his new book "Twitterville." 08:18 Martin talks about a new segment on IPR called "30." 09:31 Dave discusses the interview format for IPR. 10:39 Terry tells us that Mitch Joel, who recently authored the book "Six Pixels of Separation," has agreed to an interview for the show. 12:45 Terry mentions one last potential interview- Louise Armstrong, Martin's business partner at Palette PR. 16:38 Terry introduces the first "30." 21:59 Terry closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman share "war stories" from the world of public relations. 00:26 Martin opens the show. 01:30 Dave introduces this week's topic: "war stories" from Martin and Dave's collective past in the PR world. 01:58 Martin kicks off the show with the first story. 8:10 Dave shares a story about Molson's fund raising concert for SARS- Molson Canadian Rocks Toronto or SARS Stock, as it was more commonly referred to. 15:51 Martin tells a story about an experience he had working with Yuk Yuk's. 20:49 Dave tells the final story of the show from his time with the Royal Canadian Golf Association. 32:43 Dave closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss how podcasting fits within the context of public relations. Show Notes: 00:27 Terry opens the show. 00:57 Terry introduces a comment from Cindy Kroeger about our Twitter discussion from IPR #143. 04:34 Dave introduces the major topic for discussion for the show: podcasting and public relations. 33:20 Terry wraps up the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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Comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli discuss PR 2018, where they take a look at public relations 10 years in the future, and welcome a comment from Keith McArthur Show Notes: 00:27 Dave opens the show. 01:00 Julie mentions the IABC event Award Winning Communicators Speak Out, where she will speaking. Details can be found on the IABC Toronto website. 03:33 Terry introduces a comment from Keith McArthur of com.motion and Veritas. 03:51 Keith McArthur leaves a comment about Inside PR #138 regarding PR Nightmares. 08:29 Terry Welcomes us to PR 2018, where Inside PR looks at Public Relations 10 years in the future. 08:48 Terry breaks the discussion down into 4 categories. 1. Media Relations 2. Social Media 3. Events, Stunts and Guerrilla PR 4. Stakeholder/ Interest Group Relations or Alliance Building 09:18 Julie discusses what she believes will happen to media relations in the future. 12:27 Dave discusses his thoughts on the future of media relations. 16:53 Dave begins the discussion on what social media will look like in 10 years. 29:03 Terry discusses where special events, stunts and guerrilla PR will be in 10 years. 29:49 Dave talks about the future of events, stunts and guerrilla PR. 32:29 Terry discusses the future of Stakeholder Relations. 35:57 Terry, Dave and Julie discuss where they will be in 10 years. 36:55 Terry closes the show. Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.
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Comments? Send us an email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, call us on the comment line on 206-337-0727, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the reasons they began their PR businesses, Palette Public Relations and MAVERICK and the five signs you should start your own PR business. Show Notes 00:26 Martin opens the show 02:11 Martin introduces the show topic: Why you would want to start a PR business and the signs that you should start a PR business. 02:58 Martin introduces the first sign: When you love your job but hate going into work 05:44 Julie discusses the second sign: When your job becomes too easy and you feel as though you are almost on autopilot 06:38 Martin discusses the third sign: Taking the little things too seriously 10:09 Julie introduces the fourth sign: Culture shock: the culture you want to create is at odds with that of the existing agency 14:08 Martin discusses the last sign: An entrepreneurial calling 20:09 Martin recaps the five signs you should start your own PR business. 21:20 Martin and Julie close the show Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.
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Comments? Send us an email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, call us on the comment line on 206-600-4741, visit the Inside PR Blubrry site, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR, Keith McArthur and David Jones review this weeks events and discuss PR agencies and how they need to change. Show Notes 00:32 Dave introduces the show 01:27 Keith talks about the InfoPresse conference and the launch of influencia.ca 02:43 The debate about social media as a cultural or technological revolution begins. The understanding of the tools or the the understanding of the culture; which is more important? 03:49 Keith gets a dig in at Dave for having issues with last week's podcast 04:07 Dave references Kate Trgovac 04:53 Dave talks about Joseph Thornley's Social Media Roundtable , MESH and speaking at MESH about podcasting with Doug Walker. Doug Walker hosts the Shill Podcast with Dave and writes the webwalker blog 08:19 Welcome to the main topic of the show: PR Agencies and How They Need to Change. This topic was brought up in reference to a blog post by Todd Defren - developer of the social media press release. 09:52 Dave and Keith discuss the "5 thoughts on the future of PR": Agencies must become comfortable with the personal branding of employees Agencies need to do a far better job training staff Agencies have to explain to clients that mistakes will happen Agencies must help clients move from reactive to proactive to interactive Agencies must reconsider their core value 40:30 Dave wraps the show Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer. This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.
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Comments? Send us an email at insideprcomment@gmail.com, call us on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. This week on Inside PR, Dave and Terry usher in a new era with a new podcast format. Show Notes 00:29 Terry introduces the show. 01:13 Dave and Terry usher in a new era with a new podcast format. 03:00 Dave asks today's panel members to introduce themselves. Julie Rusciolelli from Maverick PR Keith McArthur from Veritas' com.motion Martin Waxman from Palette PR 04:08 Dave introduces a comment about ethics in PR from Rayanne Langdon (sp), a corporate communications student from Centennial College. 07:02 The panel weighs in on the first main topic of today's episode - Ethics and Reputation in Public Relations. 24:20 Keith kicks off today's second main topic - Michael Bryant, YouTube and Government's use of social media. 41:20 Terry does NOT do Inside PRoper English this week. Dave suggests starting a Facebook page if you'd like to bring it back. 41:45 Criteria for being on the new Inside PR panel and Dave signs off. Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer. This week's episode of Inside PR was produced by Kyra Aylsworth.
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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discussed what they would ask for if they could create a social media and PR wish list. Also, they welcome audio comments from David Fleet and Bernard Goldbach.

00:36 David introduces the show. 01:06 David and Terry welcome a comment from Dave Fleet.

01:10 Dave Fleet gives his comments on the Veritas survey.

02:38 David and Terry address Dave Fleet's comments and the Veritas survey results.

03:48 Dave and Terry welcome a comment from Bernie Goldbach.

03:50 Bernie Golbach thanks David and Terry for a great show and talks about how he records and plays many episodes of Inside PR for his class incorporating it into his curriculum.

04:58 David and Terry thank Bernie for his comment.

06:28 David introduces today main topic: Social Media & PR Wish list

27:43 Inside PRoper English: The redundant phrase - "The reason is, because..."

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Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about podcasting and it's role within public relations.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:30 Terry talks about Podcast Expo.

07:55 Terry introduces the main topic of discussion for the week: podcasting and public relations.

29:30 Inside PRoper English: what

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Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week is the vacation edition. With both of them on vacation, Terry and David recorded this edition early. This week, they discuss how they got into the PR business.

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:30 Terry and David are on vacation - this is the vacation edition.

02:15 Terry says that he and David will discuss how they made their careers in PR. Neither intended to work in PR until they were actually working in it.

26:00 Inside PRoper English: check back next week!

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Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the future of social media and PR's place within it. Also, they welcome audio comments from Paull Young, Andrew Findlater, and Colin Douma. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry wants to point listeners to an interview he did with Paull Young for the Forward Podcast.

03:12 Terry talks about his venture into the world of audio book podcasting with his novel The Best Laid Plans, this week with an offer to have his book listed on Podiobooks.

04:10 David talks about a possible new feature on Inside PR: phonecasting, which allows listeners to download podcasts to their cell phones.

05:15 David talks about a podcast interview he did with Eric Bergman about the MRP system he helped pioneer.

6:55 Terry kicks off this week's batch of comments with an email from Michael Keliher. He talks about a promotional giveaway that listeners can enter here.

09:12 David introduces an audio comment from Andrew Findlater of National PR, who is in search of a social media savvy PR professional. Terry points out that his firm is also on the hunt for such PR pros.

14:10 Terry introduces an audio comment from Paull Young on Canada's social media scene.

15:20 David introduces an audio comment from Colin Douma. Colin wonders what the future of PR, marketing, and social media are going to look like.

21:30 Terry and David use Colin's question as this week's main topic for discussion. Terry has a sense that there will be some change in communications as everyone tries to put a stake in social media. David thinks that the focus needs to be on the conversation and on the fact that we need not go through the media anymore. David asks the question: will marketing and PR change because of social media?

29:05 Terry adds that PR isn't about selling, and that's why he thinks we're best suited to own social media.

31:58 Terry introduces Chris Clarke's commentary this week.

35:28 Inside PRoper English: avoiding unnecessary "filler" words, phrases and cliches like "essentially," "basically," "at the end of the day," and Terry's favourite, "in terms of."

37:50 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their first of many discussions on the myths of public relations. This week, they talk about the myth of the "PR agency sweatshop". Also, they play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke and Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:43 Terry reminds listeners that he recently posted a special edition of Inside PR with Esther Buchsbaum, co-founder of Communications Meca and the first ever Canadian chair of the Counselors Academy spring conference. Interested listeners can find the episode here on the Inside PR blog page.

02:20 Terry talks about a comment from Jamey Sheils on Inside PR #21.

03:30 David talks about a comment from Owen Lystrup.

06:21 David introduces a chat about the myths of the public relations. This week's topic is the myth surrounding the "PR agency sweatshop."

07:41 Terry makes it clear that there are fewer agency "sweatshops" than most believe.

10:28 David believes the "PR sweatshop" depends on the person's perspective. He talks about his time years ago working long hours, but from his perspective, not in a sweatshop.

13:00 Terry doesn't see the value of working new employees to the point of burnout. He defines it as a person working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for months on end. He suggests that it would be in the firm's and the employee's longer term interest to hire a second consultant and split the 10 hours/day in two.

14:40 David thinks everyone should do their homework and know what they're getting into before they join an agency.

18:33 David says that the long hours he worked early in his career has led to him being more efficient.

19:20 Terry mentions that there are far fewer "PR sweatshops" than most would think, but David says that there are a few "sweatshops" where it's an owner and a group of interns. Terry agrees but doesn't think that's the way to build an agency, but these agencies do exist.

21:55 Terry mentions that he's had a mere two all-nighters in his 18 years as a consultant.

22:20 David welcomes any stories relating to "PR sweatshops".

23:11 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

26:09 Inside PRoper English for the week: the proper use of the word "none"

27:39 David closes the show and invites listener comments; through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman make a special announcement and welcome a listener comment.

00:31 Terry opens the show.

01:40 Terry mentions that he will be giving a presentation today at a McNally Robinson bookstore in Don Mills.

03:07 Terry introduces a comment from Simon Mason of LimeCube Marketing.

04:26 Dave, Martin and Terry all sound off on the role of authenticity when a PR agency takes on the task of transcribing blogs for their clients.

10:44 Terry introduces this week's topic: IPR's summer hiatus and the future of the show.

23:53 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the top 5 questions any company should ask a PR agency regarding social media when they are shopping around for a firm.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:21  Martin tells us about his travels to the Counselors Academy conference and the CPRS annual conference in Vancouver.

07:36  Martin introduces this week's topic: What are some of the questions a client can ask a PR agency in order to gauge whether or not they have a strong handle on social media practices?

08:08  The first question is: How active is the agency and its employees in the social media world?  For example, are they using Twitter?  Do they blog?

11:39  Terry asks the next question: What social media projects or case studies has the agency already accomplished?

14:25  Martin asks the third question: According to the agency, what are the governing principles of social media?

19:25  The fourth question is: How do you monitor social media and what kind of response do you get back?  Do you use Google Alerts or Technorati?

23:45:  Finally, how does your company fit with the agency?  Does the relationship feel right?

26:10 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones discuss how public relations changes during the summer season and welcome a listener comment.  Martin Waxman reports from Vancouver.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

02:25 Dave mentions the now famous Billy Bob Thornton interview with Jian Ghomeshi.

03:11 Terry welcomes a comment from Felipe Mangabeira of FirstCom Communications in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

04:30 Terry opens a discussion about how public/media relations changes during the summer season.

13:00 Terry introduces Martin, reporting from the CPRS conference in Vancouver.

15:11  After a brief run-down of some of the events at the conference, Martin introduces the interview segments with Julie Szabo and Darren Barefoot of Capulet Communications, Terry Flynn of McMaster University and Paul Mylrea of the Global Alliance for Public Relations and Communications Management.

28:40 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones discuss client/vendor relationships and Martin Waxman reports from sunny California.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

05:08 Dave starts a discussion stemming from a YouTube video he saw about client/vendor relationships posted on Dave Fleet's blog.

26:50 Terry introduces Martin's segment, recorded in Palm Springs, California at the Counselors Academy Conference.

27:22 Martin gives us some highlights of the conference and tells us he will be interviewing the following people:  Pat McNamara of Apex Public Relations, Deborah Weinstein of Strategic Objectives, Joseph Thornley of Thornley Fallis Communications, Elise Mitchell of Mitchell Communications Group, Gini Dietrich of Arment Dietrich, Scott Farrell of Golin Harris and Jason Baer of Convince and Convert.

40:36 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the importance of maintaining professionalism in the realm of social media and welcome listener comments.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:50 Terry welcomes a comment from David Mullen.

04:20 Terry welcomes a comment from Joe Troxler.

05:10 Martin mentions that he and Terry just came from Third Tuesday Toronto, where the folks from MGI Media were speaking.

05:35 Martin and Terry have a discussion about video and podcasting production, as well as professionalism in the social media world.

25:04 Terry shifts the topic to a discussion of audio versus video podcasts.

28:17 Martin announces that as of Tuesday, May 26 he will be the incoming President of  CPRS Toronto.

29:15 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the recent controversy surrounding former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and the necessity of maintaining a true representation of public relations.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

08:10 Terry mentions that Joe Thornley has started a Third Tuesday Social Media Book Club using the application Shelfari.

08:55 Martin announces that he will be speaking on a panel with Joe Thornley, Daniel Tish and Kerry Harris at the CPRS National Conference at the beginning of June in Vancouver.

09:29 Terry welcomes a comment from Michael Miller.

12:40 Terry opens a discussion about the hearings going on in Ottawa regarding former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney's business relationship with Karlheinz Schreiber.

21:50 Martin introduces another discussion point which arose from a post he read by David Mullen, entitled "The Worst Thing About PR."

29:49 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the public perception of PR and the need for a Canadian PR publication.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

02:42 Terry mentions that For Immediate Release featured the results of their listener survey and Inside PR tied for the #1 spot on the Top 5 list of other PR podcasts that FIR listeners tune into.

04:53 Both Terry and Martin agree that it's great to see two other Canadian podcasts on the Top 5 list: Six Pixels of Seperation and Trafcom News Podcast.

06:15 Martin tells us that Grizzly's Growls has invited the hosts of Inside PR and For Immediate Release to appear on his podcast.

08:00 Martin starts a discussion about Maverick PR's Internship Idol competition.

18:17 Terry opens a discussion about PR Week after seeing a news item about it on Joe Thornley's blog.

28:07 Terry closes the show.

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This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR we listen to a live recording of the CPRS Toronto Web 2.0 PR panel with Martin Waxman moderating.

00:44 Martin opens the show.

01:05 Welcoming comments from Lawrence Stevenson, president of CPRS Toronto.

01:24 Lawrence introduces the evening's co-chair, Alison Reed.

01:40 Alison introduces the moderator for the evening, Martin Waxman.

04:09 Martin introduces the discussion panelists: Kate Trgovac, Ed Lee, Keith McArthur, David Jones and Lisa Leung.

07:22 The discussion begins with the first question for the panel coming from Martin: What would your definition of social media be?

17:55 Martin asks the panel if they think social media could replace television or water cooler chats as the first place people gather socially.

27:09 Martin welcomes a question from Lawrence Stevenson off the live Twitter feed.

34:59 Martin asks a question from the live Twitter feed: What do you think the first social media tool is?

38:37 Final question from the Twitter feed: How do you measure the success of a social media campaign?

43:50 Show closes.

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman share "war stories" from the world of public relations.

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:30 Dave introduces this week's topic: "war stories" from Martin and Dave's collective past in the PR world.

01:58 Martin kicks off the show with the first story.

8:10 Dave shares a story about Molson's fund raising concert for SARS- Molson Canadian Rocks Toronto or SARS Stock, as it was more commonly referred to.

15:51 Martin tells a story about an experience he had working with Yuk Yuk's.

20:49 Dave tells the final story of the show from his time with the Royal Canadian Golf Association.

32:43 Dave closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the role of customer service in public relations.

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:19 Terry welcomes a question from Daniel D.

09:15 Martin tells us the short version of how Palette PR got its name.

12:36 Dave introduces another question from Ian Ross, former president of the CPRS Toronto Chapter.

14:18 Terry, Dave and Martin have an in-depth discussion about the role customer service plays on the agency side of public relations.

25:10 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman welcome questions and comments from listeners and discuss the topics that are brought up.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:23 Martin tells us this week's show will be a "comment round-up"  and welcomes the first comment from Julie Rusciolelli.

03:44 Terry mentions what a wonderful time he had at the CPRS Pinnacle Awards Dinner (Hamilton Branch) and gives a shout-out to all the new Inside PR subscribers he met there.

05:09 Martin mentions that the CPRS Toronto Ace Awards are coming up on April 21st.

06:54 Dave introduces an audio comment from Deborah Zanke in response to a question asked by Crystal Klippenstein regarding the role of PR in the non-profit sector.

12:22 Terry comments on the importance of balancing promotion and protection when working with non-profit organizations.

13:30 Dave mentions that the Canadian founder of War Child is tweeting from a war zone in Africa and that it's an excellent example of how non-profit organizations are embracing social media.

16:42 Terry introduces another audio comment from Barbara Nixon.

21:09 Dave, Terry and Martin discuss whether or not portfolios are important when applying for a job in public relations.

27:01 Dave, Terry and Martin all agree that having a blog can be a major asset when applying for jobs in the PR world.

29:25 Terry closes the show.

Production Note: This week's rejoinder is courtesy of Grizzly's Growls Podcast.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss all things Twitter.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:22 Terry announces that he spoke at the Canadian Public Relations Society (Hamilton Branch) Pinnacle Awards dinner last night.

02:12 Terry mentions the immense amount of major media coverage Twitter has received in the past month.

03:22 Terry introduces the show topic for this week: the "usability" or pros and cons of Twitter on the agency and client side of public relations.

04:07 Dave and Marin have an in-depth discussion about how they use Twitter and what they like, or don't like, about the tool.

18:02 Dave discusses the etiquette of following and being followed on Twitter.

20:55 Martin suggests that a tipping point with Twitter usage may be when a user goes from using the Twitter.com interface to using an application like Tweetdeck or Twirl.

24:49 Terry shifts the conversation to a discussion of how some organizations are using Twitter, with examples of how Twitter can work for the clients of PR agencies.

32:49 Dave talks about how successful Twitter can be at building professional relationships, citing his relationship to Antonia Zerbisias as an example.

34:43 Dave closes the show.

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This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss awards season in the PR world and welcome comments from listeners.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:03 Martin welcomes a comment from Crystal Klippenstein, regarding the role of PR practioners in the non-profit sector.

03:15 Dave welcomes a comment from Karen Ashley, regarding the old Inside PR segment, Inside PRoper English.

06:07 Dave introduces this week's topic: awards season in the world of PR, specifically the IABC awards and the CPRS awards.

10:14 Dave and Martin discuss the common weak points they have encountered within award submission packages.

13:17 Dave and Martin both agree the more specific your objectives are, the more likely your award submission is likely to stand out.

16:40 Dave opens a discussion about the reasons PR agencies enter their work for awards.

20:43 Dave thinks that creating a nicer looking award and a more exciting award ceremony are key to chalking up more interest in submitting for consideration.

23:51 Dave sums up the top three reasons most PR agencies enter themselves for award consideration.

26:43 Dave closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman look back over the past three years of Inside PR, discuss the future of social media and welcome three listener comments.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Terry introduces the Inside PR anniversary show clips from Episodes 1, 52 and 104.

03:53 Episode #1 clip starts.

05:46 Episode #52 clip starts.

08:20 Episode #104 clip starts.

11:11 Terry, Dave and Martin discuss the show clips and how the show has evolved in the past three years.

13:17 Terry reflects on the change in the concept of transparency and authenticity in the world of PR over the past few years.

18:18 Dave opens the question of whether or not first-mover advantage is one of the most important factors in social media.

19:07 Dave makes note of the fact that most Inside PR subscribers also listen to other PR podcasts, such as For Immediate Release and Six Pixels of Seperation.

22:18 Terry notes that while podcasts have not grown in popularity as quickly as he thought they might, many mainstream media outlets, such as the CBC and NPR, provide content in podcast form.

24:25 Dave mentions the difficulty that amatuer podcasters have in competing with mainstream podcasts hosted by people like Bill Maher and Adam Carolla.

26:42 Terry introduces a comment from Sallie Goetsch, founder of The Podcast Asylum.

27:21 Terry introduces a question from Kalene Morgan, a PR professor at Humber College.

31:55 Terry welcomes the final comment from Alison Farbar, who was introduced to Inside PR by Shel Holtz.

34:00 Terry asks Dave and Martin for their thoughts on how an individual can make the transition from the client side of PR to the agency side.

39:01 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss managing a PR agency through the current economic recession.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

00:57 Housekeeping note: Terry explains why Inside PR #154 has not yet appeared on iTunes.

03:38 Martin introduces the show topic for this week: managing an agency through the recession.

03:54 Martin mentions that the show topic was partly inspired by Todd Defren's recent blog post.

05:11 Martin mentions the Counselor's Academy, an offshoot of The Public Relations Society of America, which is an organization geared toward PR agencies.

06:38 Terry begins a review of the ways in which agencies bill their clients and how that may change during a recession.

13:29 Terry introduces a discussion on the challenging concept of value billing.

20:08 Terry shares some techniques on cash-flow managment for PR agencies.

28:40 Terry opens a discussion about the most valuable resource any PR agency has: it's people.

32:26 Terry gives Dave Fleet a shout-out for all his hard work at Thornley Fallis.

34:18 Terry announces that next week's episode of Inside PR marks the show's 3rd anniversary!

35:11 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman have an in-depth conversation about PR accreditation.

00:25 Dave opens the show.

00:54 Dave introduces this week's topic: Accreditation in the world of PR and the two major organizations that grant it.

01:44 Martin gives a quick 101 on the Canadian Public Relations Society APR designation, which he describes as similar, but not quite identical to the accreditation of the Public Relations Society of America.

06:05 Terry opens a discussion about the value of PR accreditation.

17:01 Terry discusses his interest in Edward Bernays and how he first learned about him while listening to the CBC's radio show The Age of Persuasion, hosted by Terry O'Reilly.

18:24 Martin talks about James Grunig, a communications theorist, who has developed 4 major models of public relations.

19:40 Terry discusses the application requirements for the IABC's ABC accreditation and compares it to the requirements of the CPRS program to pursue an APR.

21:30 Martin mentions that he and his fellow accreditation committee co-chair at the CPRS, Vince Power, act as facilitators of study groups for those who are pursuing their APR.

25:57 Terry thanks Shel Holtz for suggesting that a discussion of the APR should include comments about the IABC's ABC accreditation.

26:29 Housekeeping note: Terry thanks Janna Guberman for loyally producing Inside PR these past few months and notes that the producer's torch has been passed on to Sarah Laister.

27:14 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman play catch-up with listener comments and discuss Skittles leap into the world of social media.

00:26  Terry opens the show.

01:05  Terry tells us that this week's show will be devoted to a "comment round-up," which will be followed by a specific topic near the end of the show.

01:46  Terry introduces the the first comment from Deborah Zanke, sole proprietor of a PR consultancy.

06:27  Terry welcomes an audio comment from Jeremy MacLaine, a student at Loyalist college.

08:05  In response to Jeremy's question, Terry and Martin discuss the do's and don't's of being an intern in the PR world.

11:35  Martin welcomes an audio comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine.

17:03  Terry introduces another comment that was left on the blog by Mike Keliher.

20:12  Martin wraps up the comment portion of the episode with two final comments from last week's live episode, recorded at Podcamp Toronto.

20:29  Terry takes a moment to thank Podcamp organizers Dave Fleet, Jay Moonah and Eden Spodek for organizing such a great event.

21:57  Martin reads the second last comment of the show, submitted by a Boston PR firm.

22:15  Martin welcomes the final comment of the show from Sarah Bannoff.

23:09  Martin introduces a discussion about the new Skittles website.

25:18  Terry asks whether the net effect of Skittles bold leap into social media is positive or negative.

29:27  Both Terry and Martin agree that Skittles foray into social media will certainly be used as a case study amongst PR professionals in the future.

30:40  Terry asks Martin for his opinion on how Skittles could take their current experience with social media and turn it around.

32:04  Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman are podcasting live from Podcamp Toronto at Ryerson University and host the show as a Q & A session with their live audience.

0:29 Terry opens the show.

0:49 Terry reminds us that Inside PR is being recorded live at Podcamp Toronto which is held at Ryerson University.

o:57 Terry tells us the show topic will be determined by audience questions this week, with some focus on the role of social media within public relations.

1:42 Maureen McBride asks Terry, Dave and Martin for their opinion regarding the balance between traditional media and social media and how that balance is changing within the public relations field.

10:04 Dave asks the audience, specifically those who work in PR, what their biggest fear is when it comes to working within the social media space.

10:20 An audience member asks whether or not PR agencies understand the time sensitivity involved in engaging with social media, as opposed to the time allowances of working with traditional media.

15:16 Diana Spremo, an independent PR practitioner, asks Terry, Dave and Martin to define the social media press release.

16:18 Dave tells the audience that that Boris Spremo, Diana's father, is a legendary photojournalist, who has worked for such publications as the Toronto Star.

19:48 Audience member Danny Brown asks if it might be time for PR to have a regulatory body.

25:05 Heather Robinson asks Terry, Dave and Martin as PR practitioners how they convince their clients to give social media a try.

31:53 Michelle Sullivan asks everyone what they think the future of traditional media might hold.

33:52 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the notion of PR people becoming the story and how this relates to the online world and welcome comments from Al Croft, Eden Spodek and Roger Christie.

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:41 Dave reminds us that next week, Inside PR will be doing a live recording at Podcamp Toronto at Ryerson University.

03:21 Dave gives a shout-out and congratulations to Ed Lee who has taken over for Keith McArthur at com.motion.

03:58 Martin mentions that he was has started a Wiki called "Twittionary", an evolving dictionary on all things twitter, which was based on a post by Shannon Yelland.

04:33 Terry reads a comment form Al Croft.

06:09 Martin introduces an audio comment from Eden Spodek of Bargainista and Community Divas.

06:22 Eden Spodek leaves a comment asking Terry, Dave and Martin to define influencers.

06:55 Martin give his perspective on how he defines an influencer.

07:52 Dave discusses how he defines an influencer.

14:08 Terry introduces a comment from Roger Christie on Online Reputation Management stemming from an online study by Weber Shandwick.

18:30 Terry mentions the Roger has also written a blog post on this topic.

19:04 Dave introduces the show topic: The Notion of PR People Becoming the Story.

23:35 Dave brings up the topic of how this relates to the online world - he refers to a "fight" that occurred on Twitter recently.

25:32 Martin mentions that Ian Capstick has a post encapsulating where things are in terms of this "fight".

25:40 Martin mentions the ongoing battle between Scott Monty and Jalopnik.

36:21 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis discusses the main differences between agency work and corporate/in-house work within a PR department and welcomes comments from Julia Bae, Shel Holtz and Jermaine Stennett.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:36 Housekeeping: Terry reminds us about Third Tuesday Toronto on February 17, with Carol Leaman, the CEO of AideRSS hosting.

02:42 Terry reads a comment from Julia Bae, a PR student at Ryerson University.

06:14 Terry mentions that working with the Canadian Council Of Public Relations Firms, they've been getting together with Terry Flynn at DeGroote School of Business at McMaster and developing a few professional development modules for PR.

07:27 Terry introduces a comment from Shel Holtz about including IABC's ABC accreditation in the discussion of APR ref: Annette Martell.

08:54 Terry introduces a comment from Jermaine Stennett which provides the topic for today's show: What is the main difference between agency work and corporate/in- house work within a PR department.

11:18 Terry discusses the agency side.

15:10 Terry talks about the client/corporate side.

20:40 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss Todd Defren's post "Don't Fire Your Agency for Performance (Before Reading This)" and welcome a comment from Sheldon Levine.

00:28 Dave opens the show.

01:09 Dave mentions that Third Tuesday Toronto is taking place on Tuesday February 17. The guest speaker is Carol Leaman, the CEO of AideRSS, the company behind PostRank.

02:18 Dave mentions that Leona Hobbs, who formally worked at Tucows, has accepted a position at Social Media Group as Director of Communications.

03:15 Terry introduces a comment from Sheldon Levine, a student at Seneca College, on IPR #147.

05:05 Terry notes that they will be doing a live recording of Inside PR at Podcamp Toronto which is taking place Feb 21st and 22nd at Ryerson University.

07:58 Martin mentions that he is the APR co-chair for Toronto.

09:05 Martin introduces the topic of discussion: Todd Defren's post "Don't Fire Your Agency for Performance (Before Reading This)". 

20:22 Dave mentions some ways to make sure the agency/team is performing up to expectations.

23:00 Terry mentions the importance of checking in with your clients.

28:53 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the social media efforts of the Globe and Mail in light of the unveiling of the federal budget and welcome comments from Jody Koehler and Erick Bauer.

00:26 Terry opens the show

01:24 Terry notes that Guy Skipworth has started a blog called "The Big Canadian Picture".

01:40 Martin mentions that his business partner, Louise Armstrong, who is a certified etiquette expert has launched a blog called "A Call for Class"  which deals with etiquette in communications and in your everyday business life.

02:33 Martin explains that Louise is certified by Protocol school of Washington.

04:49 Terry mentions that Podcamp Toronto is coming up on Feb 21st and 22nd at Ryerson University and that Inside PR will be doing another live recording there.

05:57 Terry mentions that Donna Papacosta of Trafcom news podcast left a comment.

06:41 Terry reads a comment left by Jody Koehler in Holland.

07:43 Martin introduces a question from Erick Bauer about how to go about building a social network as a student while still respecting the busy schedules of the professionals you're approaching.

08:56 Martin says, as Joe Thornley mentioned at Talk is Cheap, one thing to do is engage them in the social media space, for example, commenting on their blog.

10:04 Terry discusses engaging in the social media space, but also the importance of meeting them face to face.

12:37 Terry introduces the major topic for the show: The social media efforts of the Globe and Mail in light of the unveiling of the federal budget.

24:28 Terry closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR David Jones, and Martin Waxman present an interview done by Guy Skipworth. He talks with Kim Geiger, an intern at Scotiabank. They also welcome comments from Terry Flynn and Keith McArthur.

Show Notes:

00:26 Martin opens the show

01:00 Dave mentions some comments they have received. The first from Terry Flynn, on Inside PR #145's mention of Paul Bates.

03:34 Dace introduces a comment from Keith McArthur.

04:08 Dave and Martin discuss Keith's comment.

08:19 Martin introduces Guy Skipworth's interview with Kim Geiger.

09:02 Guy Skipworth interview's Kim Geiger.

20:24 Martin discusses the interview and mentions what he looks for in an intern.

28:29 Dave closes the show.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss the next steps for journalists who have been laid off and how these layoffs will affect the PR profession and welcome a comment from Steve Mullen.

Show Notes:

00:27 Terry opens the show.

00:54 Terry and Dave introduce a comment from Steve Mullen of EndGame PR in Richmond, Virginia.

01:29 Steve Mullen comments on the proper length for podcasts.

02:42 Terry discusses his thoughts on the length of podcasts.

03:51 Martin discusses length of podcasts.

04:31 Dave talks to length of podcasts.

10:07 Terry introduces the discussion topic for the show: How will the layoff of journalists affect those in the PR profession and the journalists themselves.

11:52 Martin discusses the question of where journalists will go.

14:20 Terry talks about journalists crossing over to PR.

15:20 Dave discusses journalists crossing over to PR.

18:23 Terry discusses what life will be like for the journalists who are left at their companies.

22:16 Dave discusses how this changes everything in the PR world.

22:05 Martin discusses how this changes things in the PR profession in terms of things moving online.

29:56 Terry closes the show.

30:10 Terry mentions that next wee there may be an interview with Guy Skipworth.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_146_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss the notion of messages and messaging.

Show Notes:

00:27 Dave opens the show.

00:52 Dave congratulates Terry of the "Podcasting is Dead" show with Joe Jaffe.

02:18 Dave mentions Julie's farewell post.

02:44 Dave introduces the main topic of discusses: The notion of messages and messaging, based on what Phil Gomes of Edelman wrote on his blog.

15:12 Terry discusses the positive role of social media in messages in PR.

17:01 Dave brings up the top of the ability to an effective communicator or spokesperson.

21:29 Dave mentions Paul Bates, and an example of an ideal spokesperson.

27:25 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_145_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss how podcasting fits within the context of public relations.

Show Notes:

00:27 Terry opens the show.

00:57 Terry introduces a comment from Cindy Kroeger about our Twitter discussion from IPR #143.

04:34 Dave introduces the major topic for discussion for the show: podcasting and public relations.

33:20 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.
Direct download: IPR_144_Final_mix.mp3
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This week on Inside PR, the gang discusses a comment from Ira Basen on the ethics/etiquette of live tweeting a conference speaker.  Inspired by a listener e-mail, the topic of conflicting clients is discussed.

And we say goodbye to Julie!
Direct download: Inside_PR_143_final.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss how social media has changed the media landscape and ask if PR professionals can step up, understand this new environment  and honour the new strictures of social media while still serving the needs of their clients.

Show Notes:

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:14 Terry discusses an email exchange that led to today's topic: An exchange occurred recently between Ira Basen of CBC radio and Joe Thornley. This stemmed from a speech that Ira made at a Canadian Institute conference on Social Media, which Joe twittered. Joe presented this exchange on his blog. He also provides Ira's speech on his blog.

02:59 Terry introduces today's topic(s): How social media has changed the media landscape and Can PR professionals step up, understand this new environment and honour the new strictures of social media and still serve the needs of their clients?

04:41 Martin discusses the changing media landscape.

07:20 Terry discusses social media's effect on the media landscape.

10:09 Dave discusses Ira's speech and the notion of the editorial gatekeeper.

19:11 Terry discusses the idea of the gatekeeper.

20:20 Terry reads from Ira's speech. ref: Jay Rosen.

23:42 Dave discusses Ira and his opinion of Pr practitioners.

27:30 Terry discusses Whirlpool's American Family podcasts and social media.

30:04 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_142_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how, in these turbulent times, an agency communicates with their employees on the inside.

Show Notes:

00:25 Dave opens the show.

01:00 Dave introduces the discussion issue for the show: Internal Communications.

01:19 Martin discusses how he came up with the show topic.

03:02 Martin introduces the show topic: In these turbulent times, how does an agency communicate with their employees on the inside?

03:37 Julie talks about 3 principles of internal communications 1) If implementing internal communications, it has to be with someone of authority, someone senior. 2)It has to be often 3) There has to be an action plan.

05:24 Dave discusses the importance of consistency.

13:47 Julie discusses not having closed-door meetings.

17:30 Martin talks about how he believes the recession will affect Generation Y.

18:12 Dave discusses Gen Y and the recession.

18:35 Julie gives her opinion on Gen Y and the effects of the recession.

21:25 Martin talks about how companies are using social media tools for internal communications.

24:54 Dave discusses Web 2.0 and internal communications and mentions two resources 1) Niall Cook, who has written a book about using Web 2.0 tactics within the enterprise. He also gave a talk about the topic at Third Tuesday Toronto in October.  and 2) Amanda Brewer, Director of Change & Internal Communications at Hill & Knowlton, who has started blogging.

26:37 Dave mentions Shel Holtz and how he has written a lot about Web 2.0 and internal communications.

27:21 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_141_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss Volunteering and the role it plays in our personal and professional development,  and welcome a comment from Chamika Ailapperuma.

Show Notes:

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:38 Martin lets us know that he will be speaking at a federated media conference on internal communications in Ottawa.

05:15 Terry introduces a comment from Chamika Ailapperuma which provides the show topic.

07:29 Terry introduces the show topic: Volunteering and the role it plays in our personal and professional development.

08:22 Martin discusses his thoughts on volunteering and the volunteering activities he participates in.

12:30 Terry talks about his thoughts on the importance of volunteering and the volunteer work he does.

14:29 Terry mentions that Joe Thornley has just been elected president of the Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms.

16:17 Terry talks about his biggest extra-curricular activity: Breakfast for Learning

19:58 Martin gives a word of advice to people who are new and wanting to volunteer.

21:02 Terry gives some tips to those early in their career looking to gain volunteer experience.

23:44 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_140_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli discuss PR 2018, where they take a look at public relations 10 years in the future, and welcome a comment from Keith McArthur

Show Notes:

00:27 Dave opens the show.

01:00 Julie mentions the IABC event Award Winning Communicators Speak Out, where she will speaking. Details can be fount on the IABC Toronto website.

03:33 Terry introduces a comment from Keith McArthur of com.motion and Veritas.

03:51 Keith McArthur leaves a comment about Inside PR #138 regarding PR Nightmares.

08:29 Terry Welcomes us to PR 2018, where Inside PR looks at Public Relations 10 years in the future.

08:48 Terry breaks the discussion down into 4 categories.
1. Media Relations
2. Social Media
3. Events, Stunts and Guerrilla PR
4. Stakeholder/ Interest Group Relations or Alliance Building

09:18 Julie discusses what she believes will happen to media relations in the future.

12:27 Dave discusses his thoughts on the future of media relations.

16:53 Dave begins the discussion on what social media will look like in 10 years.

29:03 Terry discusses where special events, stunts and guerrilla PR will be in 10 years.

29:49 Dave talks about the future of events, stunts and guerrilla PR.

32:29 Terry discusses the future of Stakeholder Relations.

35:57 Terry, Dave and Julie discuss where they will be in 10 years.

36:55 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_139_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman recount their PR nightmares and discuss comments from Sarah Wilkin and Melissa.

Show Notes:

00:27 Dave opens the show.

00:52 Terry mentions a comment from Sarah Wilkin on Episode 136 of Inside PR.

03:43 Dave introduces a question from Melissa. She asks for advice for someone who would like a job in Public Relations but is not interested in social media.

12:06 Terry introduces the show topic: Recounting PR Nightmares.

12:39 Terry recounts his own PR Nightmare.

20:48 Dave recounts his PR Nightmare.

24:48 Martin recounts his PR Nightmares.

28:43 Dave brings up another PR horror story of his.

30:03 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_138_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli record a live episode of Inside PR at Talk is Cheap, Centennial College's unconference, and discuss comments and questions from several individuals Louise Armstrong, Joe Thornley, Dave Fleet, Doug Walker and several others.

Show Notes:

00:23 Terry opens the show.

02:10 Question from Louise Armstrong of Palette PR on tips for how to counsel clients on getting started in social media.

08:12 Question from Joe Thornley of Thornley Fallis Communications on, with the current state of the economy, there are any trends on whether social media is surviving because it is relatively cheap or whether it is the first to be cut because it is unproven.

12:50 Question from Dave Fleet of Thornley Fallis Communications on ghost blogging.

18:24 Question from Doug Walker of Social Media Group on the difference between what the internal perception of the company is compared to what the individuals are embracing.

24:20 Question on whether you can shape the conversation in the blog world like you can in media.

28:04 Question on how students just starting out can get noticed in the world of social media.

34:23 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_137_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis , Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how agencies manage when confronted with an economic downturn and welcome comments from Kalene Morgan, Francis Wooby and Volodymyr Dehtyarov.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show

02:37 Terry reminds us once again about Talk is Cheap, Centennial College's unconference, on November 12, where Inside PR will be recording a show in front of an audience.

04:22 Martin mentions that he will be on a panel that Joe Thornley organized with Trevor Campbell, President of Porter Novelli Canada, talking about what agencies are looking for in terms of social media from younger practitioners.

04:40 Terry introduces a comment from Kalene Morgan, a Public Relations professor at Humber College.

05:54 Terry introduces a second comment from Francis Wooby.

06:19 Francis Wooby leaves a comment about where social media falls in terms of being a tactic or a strategy.

07:11 Terry discusses Francis' comment.

08:22 Terry introduces a third comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine in Kyiv, Ukraine, which sets up the topic for this weeks show.

09:45 Terry introduces the show topic: How do agencies manage when confronted with an economic downturn?

10:15 Terry mentions a post that Joe Thornley has written about steps Thornley Fallis is taking during these new economic realities.

13:36 Julie discusses how her company, MAVERICK, is handling things during the economic downturn.

17:22 Martin lends his perspective on dealing with the current economic situation.

21:44 Martin talks about clients' reactions to the economic downturn.

22:26 Julie discusses clients' reactions to the economic downturn.

23:43 Terry talks about clients' reactions to the economic downturn.

24:53 Terry continues the discussion on clients' reactions.

26:31 Julie talks about an agency that had to let go of over ten people in their Toronto office.

29:36 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_136_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss practicing what you preach. At what time, as senior practitioners, do you stop doing the "grunt" work?

Show Notes

00:25 Dave opens the show.

01:00 Dave reminds us about Talk is Cheap, Centennial College's unconference, on November 12. Inside PR will be recording a show at the conference in front of an audience.

02:17 Julie introduces the show topic: Do you practice what you preach? At what time, as senior practitioners, do you stop doing the "grunt" work?

04:18 Dave discusses always maintaining your skills in this business. Agencies will go somewhere if they can develop people.

06:56 Martin talks about maintaining your skills.

11:48 Dave discusses people who may be good at PR, but not at managing.

15:55 Dave introduces the discussion of tips that people should consider as they hire senior people, rise up to become senior people or are senior already.

16:24 Dave discusses his first tip: It is okay to delegate authority, but not responsibility.

17:46 Julie talks about delegating authority, but not responsibility.

18:48 Julie introduces the second tip: Get under the skin of the client.

21:32 Martin discusses a third tip: Listening and questioning.

22:32 Dave gives a run-down of things that are important.

25:14 Julie discusses the need for senior practitioners to lead.

27:48 Dave mentions a credo he has which came out of a review with Joe Thornley.
The Three "D's":
1) Delegate 2) Demand 3) Deliver

29:27 Julie mentions a fourth "D": Do.

29:54 Martin closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_135_FINAL_tag.mp3
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This week on Inside PR David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss how to go about obtaining media and/or PR publicity as a small business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show.

01:29 Martin mentions that Talk is Cheap, Centennial College's unconference is back in Toronto on November 12 and Inside PR will be recording a show at the conference in front of an audience.

02:31 Dave mentions Gary Schlee, who used to run the Talk is Cheap program.

07:53 Dave discusses the wiki he set up: socialmediacasestudies.wetpaint.com.

08:05 Dave mentions Peter Kim and his blog, with a list of (originally) 234 social media marketing examples and how it gave him the idea for his wiki.

09:39 Dave mentions people such as Maggie Fox at Social Media Group and Kate Trgovac who have been provided social media marketing examples and links in the right way.

11:00 Martin talks to blogger relations.

11:16 Dave talks to blogger relations.

13:16 Dave gives a hat tip to Peter Kim and Dave Fleet. Dave started the Social Media Training Wiki on Wet Paint last year.

14:10 Martin introduces the show topic: How to go about obtaining media and/or PR publicity as a small business.

15:55 Dave mentions that you have to ask yourself if you are "F.B.O." (the First, Best or Only). You have to ask yourself what your story is and how you are unique.

20:20 Martin discusses how to reach the people you want to reach (such as media people).

24:46 Dave discusses having modest expectations.

26:49 Dave mentions Mabel's Labels, a company started by two women, that makes very durable labels for kids clothes, and how their mention on The View created word-of-mouth popularity for them.

28:10 Martin talks about trends.

30:17 Dave mentions the CBC show Dragon's Den, where people come in and pitch their business ideas to potential investors.

31:45 Dave discusses another good idea to getting media/PR publicity; getting in touch with someone in the industry.

32:54 Dave summarizes the five ways small business can get publicity for themselves: 1) Figure out what your story is 2) Who do you want to reach? 3) Refine your pitch 4) Have modest expectations 5) Learn and recalibrate.

33: 39 Dave closes the show.

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This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and David Jones continue to discuss the coverage of the current economic situation and how it relates to PR and media in Canada.

Show Notes

00:26 Dave opens the show.

01:56 Terry mentions the WKRP episode that featured the Thanksgiving "Turkey Drop".

03:35 Dave mentions that the comment line for Inside PR is no longer being used. However if you would like to leave a comment you can record one and send it into insideprcomments@gmail.com.

04:10 Dave introduces the show topic: The coverage of the current economic situation and how it relates to PR and media in Canada.

07:10 Dave mentions that bigger PR agencies such as Hill & Knowlton, Edelman, Weber Shandwick and Burson-Marsteller are better equipped to handle economic downturns.

08:25 Terry talks about the importance of having a balance of clients in agencies.

09:00 Terry mentions that start-up companies are a little more anxious in these times.

09:33 Terry mentions a blog post on this by Todd Defren of the PR Squared blog.

12:52 Terry reads a line from Todd's post, quoted from an article in the Harvard Business Review.

17:02 Terry mentions other things agencies can do in the current economic situation: No big investments, but continued marketing efforts.

23:19 Dave mentions the importance of putting your agency on the digital map, now, if possible.

29:08 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: Inside_PR_133_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Martin Waxman discuss the current state of the economy and the recent Canadian and US political debates.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:40 Martin introduces the topic of discussion: The current state of the economy.

02:26 Martin mentions Richard Edelman's blog post on how Secretary of Treasury Paulson, and others, have not done a good job of communicating this story.

02:43 Martin talks about putting media stories, such as this one, into human terms.

03:05 Terry talks to responsible reporting.

05:35 Dave talks about business reporting and the connection to PR: getting your message through.

07:34 Martin brings up the topic of Canadian media's tendency to tag onto the bigger US stories.

16:18 Terry discusses the US Presidential debate.

18:26 Martin discusses the US Vice-Presidential debate.

20:34 Martin talks about a post by Giovanni Rodriguez of the hubbub blog, where he discusses how the VP candidates were trained too well.

21:37 Dave discusses the US VP debate.

23:37 Terry discusses the recent Canadian Prime Minister debate.

32:37 Martin discusses the effects of the online world on politics.

33:05 Dave discusses the online world and politics.

35:19 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_132_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli define the broad scope of Public Relations and discuss the tactics that are involved in it.

Show Notes

00:33 Dave opens the show.

01:20 Housekeeping: Dave mentions that For Immediate Release, a bi-weekly podcast hosted by Neville Hobson and Shel Holtz, is having a listener contest to win tickets to one of two conferences, the first in Berlin, Germany at the end of October and the second in Los Angeles, California in November. To enter, upload a video (in any format, but do not email) that conveys a thought, a concept or an idea in imaginative ways.

03:17 Dave mentions that Third Tuesday is back in Toronto and Ottawa.
Niall Cook
,  Worldwide Director of Marketing Technology at Hill and Knowlton will be at Third Tuesday Toronto on October 7 and Third Tuesday Ottawa on October 8 to discuss his book Enterprise 2.0.

05:17 Terry introduces a comment from Harvey Skolnick, a marketing professor at Sheridan College.

06:47 Harvey's comment proposes a topic for the show: Defining how broad the scope of public relations actually is.

08:21 Terry introduces five major segments of PR: 1) Media Relations, 2) Government Relations, 3) Stakeholder Relations (alliance building), 4) Investor Relations and 5) Internal/Employee Communications.

08:48 Terry talks about Media Relations.

09:14 Terry discusses Government Relations.

10:05 Julie talks about Stakeholder Relations.

11:26 Julie discusses Investor Relations.

12:10 Terry discusses Investor Relations.

12:45 Dave talks about Internal/Employee Communications.

14:45 Dave introduces the subject of PR tactics and begins with the tactic of writing.

15:56 Julie discusses writing.

16:20 Julie talks about a second PR tactic; event management.

20:04 Terry discusses two other PR tactics; media intelligence and media preparedness.

22:40 Terry discusses the final PR tactic; social media and the online space.

27:18 Terry summarizes the show topic.

27:55 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_131_FINALtag.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the topic of Word of Mouth, suggested by Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

2:24 Housekeeping: Terry introduces the first of two comments.
Brent Kinnaird at the Hamilton Port Authority left a comment about Inside PR # 129 not being up.  
*Inside PR #129, is currently only available on some computers, but, for subscribers, is still available on itunes. We are looking into it.*

5:16 Terry introduces the second comment from Bob Crawshaw of Maine Steet Marketing, who suggests that Inside PR discuss Word of Mouth (WOM).

10:06  Terry mentions WOM expert Sean Moffitt who runs Agent Wildfire.

10:33 Martin talks about WOM.

11:03  Terry talks about WOM.

11:56 Terry reads from Agent Wildfire's website.

12:49 Terry mentions research on trust and gives the example of the Edelman Trust Barometer.

14:05 Martin talks about WOM in terms of Social Networking sites such as LinkedIn and Twitter.

17:41 Martin mentions that anyone who is interested in WOM should read Malcolm Gladwell's book, The Tipping Point.

22:50 Terry mentions Sean Moffitt's involment with WOMMA and his blog Buzz Canuck.

23:45 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: Inside_PR_130_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the reasons they began their PR businesses, Palette Public Relations and MAVERICK and the five signs you should start your own PR business.

Show Notes

00:26 Martin opens the show

02:11 Martin introduces the show topic: Why you would want to start a PR business and the signs that you should start a PR business.

02:58 Martin introduces the first topic: When you love your job but hate going into work

05:44 Julie discusses the second sign: When your job becomes too easy and you feel as though you are almost on autopilot

06:38 Martin discusses the third sign: Taking the little things too seriously

10:09 Julie introduces the fourth sign: Culture shock: the culture you want to create is at odds with that of the existing agency

14:08 Martin discusses the last sign: An entrepreneurial calling

20:09 Martin recaps the five signs you should start your own PR business.

21:20 Martin and Julie close the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: InsidePR_129_FINAL.mp3
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This week on Inside PR Terry, Martin and Julie discuss the tools they use for time tracking, media monitoring, media list development, project management, subscriptions and podcasts and welcome a comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov of Nords PR Ukraine in Kyiv, Ukraine.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry opens the show.

01:25 Terry introduces a comment from Volodymyr Dehtyarov.

02:58 Volodymyr Dehtyarov comments on how Inside PR should discuss the topic of the tools PR agencies use to manage their time and bill their clients.

05:09 Terry introduces the show topic: The tools PR agencies use for time tracking, media monitoring, media list development, project management, subscriptions and podcasts.

06:16 Martin discusses the first category; time tracking.

08:56 Julie talks to time tracking.

11:42 Terry talks to time tracking.

18:50 Terry introduces the next category; media monitoring tools.

19:07 Julie discusses her preferred tools for media monitoring.
1. Google
2. Infomart
3. Cision

21:28 Martin talks to media monitoring.

25:19 Terry introduces the third category; media list development tools such as MediaNetCentral.

26:10 Martin talks to media list tools.

28:22 Julie talks to media list tools.

29:39 Martin discusses subscription tools including Media Relations Rating Points.

30:58 Julie talks to project management tools she uses.

32:35 Terry discusses the tools used to produce Inside PR such as Audacity and Libsyn.

34:13 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Direct download: IPR_128_FINAL_tag.mp3
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This week on Inside PR, Terry, David, Martin and Julie discuss five best practises when it comes to setting up a corporate blog.

Show Notes

00:31 Dave opens the show.

01:22 Martin introduces the week's topic: Best practises when it comes to setting up a corporate blog. (ref: Joel Postman and Mitch Joel).

02:23 Terry introduces the first best practise: Honesty.

04:39 Terry mentions corporate examples of organizations that have failed to practise honesty. He references Walmarting Across America Blog and Sony PSP Blog.

12:38 Martin introduces the second best practise: Conversation.

15:30 Terry introduces the third best practise: Timeliness.  He gives an example of a corporate blog that did not practise timeliness: McDonald's Corporate Social Responsibility Blog.

19:53 Julie asks the other's opinions on anonymous posts

20:41 Martin talks about the president of Whole Foods slagging his competition anonymously.

21:44 Dave introduces the fourth best practise: Measurement.

28:27 Julie introduces the fifth best practise: Commitment.

31:38 Dave talks to commitment.

34:21 Dave refers to Joe Jaffe as the go-to guy for commitment.

35:00 Terry summarizes the five best practises: Honesty, Conversation, Timeliness, Measurement and Commitment.

35:39 Terry Closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis and David Jones discuss crisis communications and revisit Inside PR #33.

Show Notes

00:25 Terry opens the show.

01:39 Dave talks about the Age of Persuasion. The Age of Persuasion can be heard on CBC Radio One , Saturdays at 11:30 am and may be found in podcast form. The show is produced by Pirate Radio and Television and is owned by Terry O'Reilly.

04:17 Terry introduces the idea of pulling out old discussions.

05:21 Dave introduces the main topics of discussion; crisis communications and the cases of Sunrise Propane and Maple Foods.

07:59 Dave talks about the bad form of reviewing communications strategies from the sidelines.

12:24 Terry talks to crisis planning and communications strategy.

13:00 Dave introduces the crisis communications clip from IPR #33 on November 14, 2006.

13:35 Issues management and crisis management are defined.

15:07 Dave talks about the distinction between a crisis plan and a crisis communications plan.

17:28 Terry references the Tylenol crisis.

19:27 Dave talks about speed to communications.

21:17 Terry talks about owning the crisis.

22:14 Dave discusses repairing images in a time of crisis.

26:27 Terry talks about the use of SM in crisis communications.

26:52 Terry talks to training.

28:50 Terry wraps the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones and Julie Rusciolelli talk about key messages and welcome comments from Nathaniel Reagan and Robert Moffat.

Show Notes

00:30 Dave introduces the show.

01:56 Dave reads a comment from Nathaniel Ragan.

04:58 Dave reads a comment from Robert Moffat.

05:53 Dave introduces the main topic of discussion for this Inside PR.

06:50 Julie talks about her interview with Patricia Lovett-Reid on Money Talk of BNN. The interview will air August 25, 2008.

11:23 Dave describes what a key message is.

15:13 Dave reviews steps to writing Key Messages:

15:56 Planning

19:05 Assembling the facts/proof points

20:51 Testing the messages

22:35 Rehearsing the conversation

27:16 Training the spokes person on the Key Points

31:10 Dave talks about Q&A documents.

33:16 Dave sums up the steps to writing key messages.

34:54 Dave wraps up the show.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman host an interview by Bob Ledrew with Brendan Dermody of journalistsource.ca, welcome comments from Al Croft, Sallie Goetsch and Bob Crawshaw and discuss the email pitch.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry opens the show.

02:47 Bob LeDrew interviews Brendan Dermody about JournalistSource.ca.

04:07 Brendan explains how JournalistSource.ca works.

05:10 Brendan talks to JournalistSource.ca's competition. (Ref: HaroPr Leads)

07:18 Brendan talks about feedback they have been receiving.

11:00 Bob wraps up the interview.

11:29 Terry does a little promo for JournalistSource.ca.

14:02 Terry reads a comment from Al Croft of A.C. Croft and Associates.

15:21 Terry talks about IPR numbers.

16:06 Terry reads a comment from Sallie Goetsch of Podcast Asylum.

20:21 Bob Crawshaw from Maine Street Marketing leaves a comment about systems that PR firms use to get their job done.

23:30 Martin talks about how Palett is working towards reducing e-waste.

26:11 Martin and Terry take a look at the email pitch.

30:06 Terry wraps up the show.


Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Terry Fallis and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the market reality for talent in agencies.

Show Notes

00:29 Dave opens the show.

01:42 Dave starts the conversation about the reality of the market for agency talent.

04:19 There are four core responsibilities in the agency market: account service, account management, account leadership and agency leadership.

04:58 Dave summarizes account services responsibilities.

08:12 Terry begins the talk on account management.

13:58 Dave defines the account management responsibilities.

15:13 The panel discusses the account leader and account leadership.

26:22 Dave sums up with group and agency leadership and the ultimate responsibility of being in these roles.

33:18 Terry wraps up the show.

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This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman talk about the importance of writing in PR and give the listeners tips to become better writers. They welcome comments from Josh Turner and Rick Weiss.

Show Notes

00:26 Terry opens the show.

01:47 Terry mentions Shel Holtz's visit to Toronto.

03:29 Josh Turner leaves a comment about last weeks Inside PR on fit and personality.

07:08 Rick Weiss asks about "too good to be true" hires and whether a company should hire someone so that the "other guy" can't get them.

09:32 Martin introduces the main topic: Tips to becoming the better writer.

10:30 Tip #1: Read and read a lot. Try to read as eclectically as possible.

13:20 Tip #2: Be Clear. Clarity is absolutely essential in thought and writing.

15:00 Martin talks about the issue of Jargon (or Gobbledygook).

16:22 Tip #3: Writing it small. Learn to pair it down. Be concise and brief. (Martin cites Pontoon by Garrison Keillor as an example)

19:36 Word of Advice: Want to practice good writing? Get on Twitter!

20:26 Tip #4: Re-write and polish! Take the time to make it magnificent before sending it off to edit.

23:25 Tip #5: Watch that style and Grammar! Ensure your style is up to par and your grammar flawless.

We Recommend:

26:55 Tip #6: You can always be a better writer.

We recommend:

  • Volunteering to write articles for your community paper.
  • Write in a journal every day.
  • Take a writing workshop.

30:46 SUPPLEMENT: How to write a news release.

Martin:

  1. Writes the headline.
  2. Brainstorms his points.
  3. Polishes the piece through 2nd and third drafts

Terry:

  1. Writes the headline.
  2. Writes a sub-header.
  3. Writes the lead through to the end.
  4. Moves the paragraphs around.
  5. Edits through to the end.

34:14 Tip #7: Develop and work through your own personal style.

35:03 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss the importance of fit and personality in an agency and how to know when a potential hire will "fit in".

Show Notes

00:37 Terry opens the show.

01:51 Terry talks about the iTunes issue.

02:34 Terry introduces a comment from Josh Turner of Trillium Corporate Communications.

04:50 Terry lays down the main topics of the show: How important are fit and personality in an agency setting and how do you know when a potential hire will "fit in"?

06:16 Martin talks about Caliper Canada and Caliper testing.

07:37 Julie talks about her experiences using the test.

14:21 Terry asks about bringing on a new hire who has a great client record, but alienates colleagues.

18:52 Julie opens talks on how you know a person is going to "fit in".

22:33 Martin tells a great story about getting a fantastic reference for a new employee.

23:34 Julie talks about why she does not trust references.

25:01 Terry talks about how he gets a sense for an employee's potential fit.

27:19 Terry talks about coaching.

28:44 Julie and Martin give their last "2 cents" on the matter.

31:12 Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Julie Rusciolelli and Martin Waxman discuss training and how PR agencies are keeping their staff up to date.

Show Notes

00:34 Dave opens the show.

02:38 Julie introduces the main topic: Training and what PR agencies are doing to keep their staff up to date.

03:40 Martin talks about something Palette has been doing. He references a lunch and learn their team will be having with Parker Mason of CNW Group. Parker was Martin's CPRS mentee.

05:14 Dave opens talks about the demand for training.

05:57 Julie talks about training credits and end of year training activities. She references Rogen training courses.

08:53 Dave talks about training at Hill and Knowlton where they carry out formal and informal training sessions including Lunch and Learns.

13:19 Julie talks to the three reasons people stay in a firm: growth and learning, fun and money.

13:42 Martin talks about staying at a job out of fear of change and complacency.

14:31 Martin and Julie discuss their thoughts on the APR accreditation.

17:24 Julie talks about IABC and CPRS.

18:43 Dave introduces the discussion on budgeting for training.

22:56 Julie opens the talks on mentoring.

34:08 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the importance of transparency and authenticity in the social media space and a company's internal practices.

Show Notes

00:27 Dave introduces the show.

02:37 Dave introduces the "bit" from Jon Hoel out of Australia. Jon created the theme song for IPR #100. You can find his clip at 02:09.

03:17 Jon joins the IPR panel from Australia. He shares his most recent interview with Shel Holtz on tactical transparency and is available on June 22nd's For Immediate Release. Shel is currently co-writing a book on the topic which will be published under the IABC and will be available in November.

05:29 Shel defines transparency on the employee and client levels.

06:36 He mentions the empowerment trend of the 1980's.

09:32 Dave opens up the main topic of discussion: The importance of transparency and authenticity in the social media space and in a company's internal practices.

13:20 Martin brings up Bridezilla. Using this example, he talks about how transparency would have ruined the "fun" of the stunt.

15:26 Dave starts the talk on internal communications and transparency.

20:37 Dave brings up the issue of lack of communications to the front-line or 1-800 employees

21:32 Martin introduces a topic out of Josh Hallett's discussion at the Counsellors Academy Conference.

23:34 Dave uses WestJet as a great example of employee empowerment.

31:05 Martin talks about how certain, older companies communicate only through lawyers.

32:57 Dave mentions fiduciary responsibilities of companies and references Strumpette.com and Amanda Chapel's twitter feed.

33:36 Dave talks about the perceived power of social media.

35:22 Martin talks about advising v. reacting as a PR counselor.

36:38 Dave talks about his flight to Ottawa sitting beside Pamela Wallin.

40:19 Dave ties up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Julie Rusciolelli discuss best practices in introducing new employees to your firm.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show.

02:30 Terry alerts listeners to the fact that Inside PR #118 and #119 have not loaded to iTunes, but that we hope to have the issue fixed shortly.

03:38 Terry talks about the introduction of Dave Fleet to the TFC Toronto team. Dave writes the Fleet Street blog and came to Thornley Fallis from the Government of Ontario.

04:27 The main topic is introduced: Best practices in introducing new employees to your firm.

04:48 Dave reviews the three main points of discussion:

  1. Doing the little things right
  2. Using the buddy system
  3. The client briefing

and talks to getting those little things done.

08:51 Julie talks about the buddy system that they use at Maverick.

12:06 Terry talks about the lack of orientation programs in smaller public relations agencies.

16:15 Dave talks about the Hill and Knowlton beer cart orientation method.

16:48 Terry brings up briefing new employees on ALL the company's clients and client projects.

19:38 Julie talks about her "14 day deliverable" orientation strategy.

24:26 Dave mentions the importance of leadership for new employees not from an agency background.

28:33 Dave welcomes Dave Fleet to the "PR fraternity" and ties up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss four ways to turn your boutique agency into a Super Star, proper, PR agency.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show

01:09 Terry tells us about Podcasters Across Borders

03:34 Dave introduces the comment from David Silverman of Outpost out of the UK

05:01 Dave sets up the main topic of discussion for this week's Inside PR: Four ways to turn your boutique agency into a Super-Star agency

05:13 Tip #1 - Build new practices by hiring experts.

06:43 Terry uses the hiring of Michael O'Connor Clarke to illustrate the effectiveness of this tip

09:58 Martin brings up the importance of being flexible in specialization

11:15 Tip #2 - Build experience in new areas by working with smaller clients and consider it an investment

14:14 Terry talks about how he and Dave learned to podcast with Ian Hull of Hull & Hull LLP.

16:41 Tip #3 - Growing your firm through buying or merging with a smaller agency that specializes in an area of interest

18:36 Martin gives us some examples of American firms using this tactic to enter into the Canadian market

20:40 Tip #4 - Fake it until you make it (though the panel of Inside PR does not recommend this action)

24:07 Martin talks about the importance of referrals

24:39 Tip #5 - Leverage your skills (a special supplement from Martin)

25:46 Terry talks about working with associates

27:31 Dave ties up the show


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This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how PR agencies are being structured in 2008.

Show Notes

00:27 Dave introduces the show

01:06 Terry alerts the listeners that Podcasters Across Borders is coming up this weekend

02:10 Terry Introduces the main topic: How PR agencies are being structured in 2008 or Organizing for better business

02:49 Terry starts up the conversation on organizing to win new business. The panel talks about whether it is better to get the whole firm winning new business or if you should hire one person for the job

04:48 Julie makes a comparison between new business gathering and hunting

07:24 Dave talks about his experiences while working at a larger firm

10:30 Terry draws the conclusion that New Business is best worked on by everyone.

16:22 Dave talks about circumstances where having new business hunters worked

18:58 The panel talks about how agencies organize to deal with client work

22:15 Martin and Julie talk about breaking down position barriers to take some of the tension out of the work place

27:30 Silo structures are referenced

31:46 The panel talks about how companies can be organized around certain Sr. people or the company's "Rainmakers"

39:25 Terry closes up the show


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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Keith McArthur and Julie Rusciolelli and discuss creativity in pitching new business.

Show Notes

00:34 Terry opens the show

01:31 The panel talks about their weekends. Terry tells us about the Leacock Medal ceremony and about getting the TD Bank Comfort zone seats at last Sunday's Blue Jays game.

02:50 Terry talks about Third Tuesday's in June across Canada. He asks listeners to check out Joseph Thornley's Blog at propr.ca

03:51 Terry plugs Podcasters Across Borders

06:18 Keith Talks about CMA's word of mouth marketing Conference: Mass to Grass

07:23 Julie talks about her participation in Luminato

09:42 Terry introduces the main topic of discussion: creativity in pitching new business

11:06 Julie talks about some tricks Maverick uses

16:38 Keith talks about a three stage process Veritas went through to pitch a client

19:59 Terry shares experiences in pitching Travelocity and Charles Schwab Canada

23:36 Julie shows that experience and credentials won't necessarily get you the win

25:28 Terry talks about the importance of connecting with a client and how important chemistry is

28:13 Terry describes TFC's Molson pitch and building a train set in the board room

30:32 Terry reads the comment from John Unkart of Michigan, USA

31:49 Julie, Keith and Terry respond

34:42 Terry closes up the show


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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli and discuss the evolution and potential extinction of the news conference.

Show Notes

00:26 Terry introduces the show

01:44 Terry introduces the comment from Bob Ledrew

03:40 Martin introduces the main topic: What is it with news conferences today?

05:08 Julie talks about a news conference Maverick did for the Sony PSP launch which was highly successful and included celebrity appearances by Wayne Gretzky and Alexisonfire

07:33 Terry talks about a failed news conference where only one freelance writer from CARP Magazine (now Zoomer Magazine) showed up

10:46 Dave talks about when it is a good time to call a news conference. He uses Sir Richard Branson's coming to Toronto to launch a Virgin product in Canada as an example

13:56 Martin Mentions News Theater

18:08 Julie opens up the topic of the future of the news conference

27:11 Terry wraps up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones, Julie Rusciolelli and Martin Waxman discuss the 5th Gap Year Study out of the University of Southern California Annenberg School for Communications and PR Studies.

Find the article here.

Show Notes

00:50 Dave opens the show

02:00 Dave starts the discussion on this week's topic: The Fifth GAP Survey Of Public Relations Practices out of UCN Annenberg

03:33 The panel talks about the relationship of PR to the C-Suite

07:03 Dave lists other positive elements of being a PR firm close to the C-Suite other than larger budgets. They follow:

  1. Encouraging ethical practices
  2. Reputation management
  3. Contributing to organizational success

13:06 Julie talks about shopping a release

15:57 Dave brings up measurability

17:16 Martin talks about PR's current measurement tools

18:28 Julie talks about lift

22:16 Julie discusses the Study's findings on Agencies of Record

28:03 Martin, Dave and Julie discuss the practice of firms hiring multiple agencies

32:09 Dave wraps the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Keith McArthur and David Jones review this weeks events and discuss PR agencies and how they need to change.

Show Notes

00:32 Dave introduces the show

01:27 Keith talks about the InfoPresse conference and the launch of influencia.ca

02:43 The debate about social media as a cultural or technological revolution begins. The understanding of the tools or the the understanding of the culture; which is more important?

03:49 Keith gets a dig in at Dave for having issues with last week's podcast

04:07 Dave references Kate Trgovac

04:53 Dave talks about Joseph Thornley's  Social Media Roundtable , MESH and speaking at MESH about podcasting with Doug Walker. Doug Walker hosts the Shill Podcast with Dave and writes the webwalker blog

08:19 Welcome to the main topic of the show: PR Agencies and How They Need to Change. This topic was brought up in reference to a blog post by Todd Defren - developer of the social media press release.

09:52 Dave and Keith discuss the "5 thoughts on the future of PR":

  1. Agencies must become comfortable with the personal branding of employees
  2. Agencies need to do a far better job training staff
  3. Agencies have to explain to clients that mistakes will happen
  4. Agencies must help clients move from reactive to proactive to interactive
  5. Agencies must reconsider their core value

40:30 Dave wraps the show

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This week on Inside PR, Terry, Keith and Martin welcome comments from Rick Weiss and Guy Skipworth, define roles in PR firms and discuss promoting employees.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

02:45 Keith talks about Interactive Marketing Conference that he is attending on May 15th with Dave Jones. Chris Anderson, editor-in-chief at Wired Magazine and author of The Long Tail, is the keynote speaker.

04:09 Terry discusses his talk at a communications event for Government of Ontario employees. 

05:06 Terry introduces the comment from Rick Weiss ( a regular listener and student at Centennial College)

05:24 Rick Weiss asks if it's possible to salvage the image of a company in distress with an excellent PR campaign

09:05 Terry introduces the comment from Guy Skipworth of Mediaco

09:28 Guy Skipworth opens the conversation on titles in agencies

10:10 Terry, Martin and Keith define the titles in agencies and outline some of the tasks that they find to be most important

23:40 Terry starts of the conversation about when to promote an employee. The panel discusses:

  • Promoting from within
  • Skills development
  • Breaking down title boundaries
  • Setting objectives
  • Succession planning
  • Career Planning
  • Retaining Employees
  • Culture
  • Training
  • Reviews

33:13 Terry closes up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Kyra Aylsworth and published by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss 360 Degrees: All Things Connected, Terry's BIG WIN, character blogs and social media's impact on public relations.

Show Notes

00:25 Dave introduces the Show

01:17 Julie talks about the CPRS event she will be attending along with Joseph Thornley

02:45 Dave mentions Terry's BIG WIN!

03:51 Terry tells us about winning the Leacock Medal for Humour

References:

Terry's Website - Home of the Best Laid Plans

The News Release

Link to CBC.ca's Ontario Today Archives

Buy The Best Laid Plans Online

  • Amazon.com
  • Amazon.ca
  • chapters.indigo.ca

About PLR

08:36 Terry introduces the comment from Jay Moonah; Talks about Uncle Seth, Podcaster's Across Boarders, Mark Blevis and Bob Goyetche

09:34 Jay Moonah leaves a comment about character blogs and the balance between authenticity and having fun. References: the Captain Morgan blog, Story2OH! and the comment on OneDegree

11:46 The panel talks about character blogs; pros and cons. They reference: the All I Want for Christmas is a PSP blog, Dwight's blog, Fake Steve Jobs blog, Jiminy Glick and Amanda Chapel

An episode of Jiminy Glick

18:13 Dave introduces the topic of social media's impact on public relations

27:59 Terry Wraps up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace


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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Keith McArthur and Julie Rusciolelli discuss communications in politics and touch on both the TTC strike move and the Beijing Olympics.

David Jones and Martin Waxman are away.

Show Notes

00:24 Terry opens the show

01:24 Julie mentions Terry's appearance in the Toronto Star

02:08 Terry speaks about the Leacock medal

02:51 Julie talks about Communitech and Chris Anderson - Author of The Long Tail

04:49 Terry starts the conversation on communications in politics by talking about communications in the time of a strike

12:03 Keith asks about advice to union leaders

13:07 Julie talks about humanizing causes

14:36 Terry mentions role reversal - turning the bad guys (gov't) into heroes through failed communications

17:54 Terry introduces the second political communications topic: The Beijing Olympics

25:29 Terry closes up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.
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This week on Inside PR, Dave Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss when to and how to fire a client and welcome a comment from Joseph Thornley, continuing the ethics discussion.

Keith McArthur and Terry Fallis were unable to join the IPR gang this evening.

Show Notes

00:34 Dave introduces the show

01:35 Joseph Thornley leaves a comment discussing the low repute of PR practitioners and PR ethics.

03:56 Martin references The Sweet Smell of Success

04:10 Julie introduces the topic of Firing a Client

04:40 Julie goes over the four warning signs that you may have to fire your client:

1. Chemistry has gone flat 2. Unreasonable demands 3. ROI 4. Abusive Behavior

The IPR Panel discusses their experiences relating to firing clients

27:27 Dave asks the question: "How do you fire a client?"

28:43 Martin Mentions the word compunction

31:00 Dave concludes the show

Our Theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.
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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Keith McArthur and Julie Rusciolelli talk about the use of social media in public relations, ethics and muse over the communications and legal fields. They welcome comments from Bob LeDrew, Michael O'Connor Clarke, Eden Spodek, Shel Holtz and Garen Stepanian.

Martin Waxman is away this week.

Show Notes

01:24 Dave introduces the show

01:30 Dave reads the comment about IPR 106 from Bob LeDrew. Bob is a member of the Thornley Fallis team in Ottawa and writes the Flack Life blog

03:11 Terry talks about taking IPR on the road

04:10 Michael O'Connor Clarke leaves a message about IPR 106. Michael is a member of the Thornley Fallis team in Toronto and writes Uninstalled. During his comment he refers to World of Ends and Doc Searls' and David Weinberger's theory on who owns the Internet

No one owns it.
Everyone can use it.
Anyone can improve it.

06:24 Michael does Inside Proper English: Metaphor V. Simile

09:32 Eden Spodek leaves a comment regarding the importance of understanding the principles of social media before applying them in a client involved environment. Eden hails from bargainista.ca

12:17 Terry mentions the importance of strategy over tactics

12:45 Dave talks about the missuses of social media tools

14:33 Keith introduces the comment from Shel Holtz and his opinion on ethics in PR. This discussion is continued from IPR 103

19:23 Terry tells the listeners about Shel Holtz' and Neville Hobson's contribution to IPR

19:52 The ethics debate begins again

27:07 Julie introduces the comment from Garen Stepanian

27:54 Terry, Julie, Dave and Keith all talk to their experiences working with Lawyers current and past and the synergy between law and public relations

37:39 Terry Signs off

Our theme music is Streewalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Show notes

01:24 Dave introduces the show

01:30 Dave reads the comment from Bob Ledrew of Thornley Fallis and writer of the Flack Life blog

03:11 Terry talks about taking IPR on the road

04:10 Michael O'Connor Clarke of Thornley Fallis and the writer of Uninstalled leaves a comment

09:32 Eden Spodek from bargainista.ca leaves a comment

14:33 Keith introduces the comment from Shel Holtz on ethics in PR

27:07 Julie introduces the comment from Garen Stepanian

37:39 Terry signs off

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This weeks episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace




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This week on Inside PR, the Inside PR panel go live to the Groundhog Pub where they tackle the tough question of who owns the social media space and field questions and statements from the Third Tuesday audience.

This weeks Inside PR panel consists of: Terry Fallis, David Jones, Julie Rusciolelli, Keith McArthur and Martin Waxman.

Show Notes

00:24 Terry introduces the show

01:26 Dave makes bad joke about spinal tap, a pod and a zucchini wrapped in tin foil. 

01:43 Dave introduces the nights topic: PR in social media

02:46 Dave commences the conversation about who "owns" social media

06:20 Julie brings up Dove's Evolution by Ogilvy as well as the Bridezilla and Subservient Chicken social media campaigns

08:26 Keith takes the stance with Terry and Dave that PR has a hold on the social media space

08:56 Martin brings up the first main difference between PR and advertising's activities in the space. Advertising does it, PR talks about it.

10:37 Tamera from the audience points out that really the social media space belongs to the customer

12:23 Julie infers that agencies are the flippers on the social media pin ball machine.

14:01 Dave issues the challenge of being a part of the social media space with out being seen as manipulating the space

14:15 Dave Ford, from the audience, continues Tamera's argument referencing Dell and Starbucks

15:05 Keith calls social media a cultural revolution

15:36 Martin references Giovanni Rodriguez and DIY

17:20 Mary Margret Jones of the audience brings up the challenge of getting clients to buy in

21:29 Keith mentions how dangerous it can be to have clients buying in without really knowing what it is

23:17 Carman from the audience starts the conversation about the PR/marketer hybrid

25:19 Julie states that the side that knows the client best will win the projects and thus the space

27:25 An unidentified audience member asks about transparency

28:20 Terry goes over some negative outcomes of not being transparent

29:37 Martin mentions having fun in the space and references the Captain Morgan blog

31:04 Brain form the audience talks about the arrogance of companies in thinking they own the social media space

32:47 Terry rephrases the initial question: What type of agency can best get the client effective social media space and activity

33:35 An audience member asks about the difference between PR and Ad in the social media space

35:13 David Ford, from the audience, asks about a recessions effect on the social media space

37:44 Keith answers with "if it's working people will spend money on it, recession or not"

38:43 Terry thanks CNW for their constant support and making every Third Tuesday come alive with sound

39:02 Dave wraps up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This weeks episode of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.


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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Martin Waxman, Keith McArthur and Julie Rusciolelli discuss hiring interns: the good the bad and the marvelous and debate Earth Hour as an effective communications plan.

Show Notes
00:35 Dave introduces the show and Terry's nomination for the Leacock medal for humour
02:02 Terry tells the story of how he found out he was short listed for the award. See the picture.
03:53 Terry mentions the IPR hacker.
04:34 Dave talks about live Inside PR at Third Tuesday. Next weeks episode will be recorded live at the Groundhog Pub, Wednesday, April 2nd, from 6pm until 8pm. To RSVP for the event please go to meetup.com
05:48 Martin announces openings for guest speakers. For those of you who do not know what Front Page Challenge is please feel free to check out this explanation.
06:27 Julie tells us about her trip to Hawaii.
09:57 Julie introduces the topic of interns: hiring interns, how interns may differentiate themselves, what not to do or say on your resume/cover letter or in the interview.
14:57 The topic of interns not wanting to do admin work comes up.
16:13 Keith talks about hiring Rayanne Langdon on at Veritas and what they were looking for when hiring her.
22:00 Terry introduces the discussion on Earth Hour as an effective communications tool.
30:54 Terry signs off.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Episode #105 of Inside PR was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss what happens if you are a PR practitioner and happen to be at the wrong end of a popular media story.  How does one respond and get their story across in an accessible and accurate way?

 

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces himself, the panel and the show.

01:05 Terry welcomes Martin Waxman to the panel.

2:05  Terry announces that Inside PR #106 will be recorded live at the Third Tuesday Social Media Meet Up in Toronto on April 2, 2008.  Location TBA.

3:50 Comment from Paul Jenkins in response to last weeks' topic, Ethics & PR.

6:44 Comment from Elizabeth Hirst on the PR & Ethics debate.

12:33 Martin introduces today's topic - What happens if you are a PR pracitioner and happen to be at the wrong end of a popular media story.  How does one respond and get their client's story across in an accessible and accurate way?

23:53 Panel weighs in on topic and suggests PR pracitioners employ creative and non traditional approaches to to both communicate their client's story and respond to traditional media.

31:05 Terry thanks the panel and signs off.

Producer's Note:  The change in this podcast sound quality is due to the shift in form for Inside PR. Our theme music is Streetwalker by the CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network.  Roger Dey is our announcer. 

This week's episode was produced by Karen Nussbaum.

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This week on Inside PR, This week on Inside PR, Terry, Martin Waxman and Keith McArthur discuss ethics in PR. They welcome comments from Mitch Joel, Sallie Geotsch, Joseph Thornley and Bernard Goldbach.

View Bernard's video here.

Show Notes:

00:33 Terry, Martin Waxman and Keith McArthur introduce themselves and the show.

01:00 Terry informs listeners that Dave is sick this week and will not be part of the show.

3:24 Comment from Mitch Joel of Six Pixels of Separation.

5:04 Terry reads a comment by Sallie Goetsch.

6:31 Terry talks about the video that Bernard Goldbach sent over from Ireland and they will post it on the Inside PR blog.

7:44 Joe Thornley comments on PR Ethics: How do we feel if our profession in sometimes held in low esteem. E.g. PR & The tobacco industry, where do we draw the line?

8:59 Terry starts off this week’s discussion about the both professional and personal ethics of working for controversial and questionable companies.

31:07 Terry thanks the panel and signs off.

Producer’s Note: The change in this podcast’s sound quality is due to the shift in format for Inside PR and should not indicate that Terry is recording inside of a ‘biscuit tin’.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Dave and Terry speak with Keith McArthur and Michelle Sullivan about going 'off the record'.

Show Notes

00:29 Dave introduces himself, the panel and the show.

01:13  Terry welcomes Michelle Sullivan to the show.

03:00 Keith McArthur starts off this week's discussion about whether or not clients should go 'off the record'. Cousins of 'off the record' include: embargoes, 'no comment' and the brown envelope.

27:00 The panel weighs in on the new social media reality and how the rules of going 'off the record' are different in the blogosphere.

37:47 Terry thanks the panel and signs off.

Producer's Note: The change in this podcast's sound quality is due to the shift in format for Inside PR and should not indicate that Terry is recording inside of a 'biscuit tin'.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode of Inside PR was produced by Kyra Aylsworth.

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This week on Inside PR, Dave and Terry usher in a new era with a new podcast format.

Show Notes

00:29 Terry introduces the show.

01:13 Dave and Terry usher in a new era with a new podcast format.

03:00 Dave asks today's panel members to introduce themselves.

Julie Rusciolelli from Maverick PR

Keith McArthur from Veritas' com.motion

Martin Waxman from Palette PR

04:08 Dave introduces a comment about ethics in PR from Rayanne Langdon (sp), a corporate communications student from Centennial College.

07:02 The panel weighs in on the first main topic of today's episode - Ethics and Reputation in Public Relations.

24:20 Keith kicks off today's second main topic - Michael Bryant, YouTube and Government's use of social media.

41:20 Terry does NOT do Inside PRoper English this week. Dave suggests starting a Facebook page if you'd like to bring it back.

41:45 Criteria for being on the new Inside PR panel and Dave signs off.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network. Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week's episode of Inside PR was produced by Kyra Aylsworth.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and Dave celebrate their 100th episode in front of a live audience of corporate communications students at 'Centennial College'. Get it? Centennial?

Show Notes

00:40 Terry introduces Inside PR's special 100th episode live at Centennial College.

01:05 Terry apologizes for the sound quality last week.

02:09 Jon Hoel from PR Junction and his friend Kurt send in a shout-out to Inside PR.

05:20 Michelle Sullivan calls in with a comment about the launch of Third Tuesday Montreal.

08:08 Terry and Dave remind listeners that Chris Clarke sent in the Inside PR Blooper Reel and to keep an eye out for it on iTunes (pretty funny).

09:13 Dave talks about why they're at Centennial College to mark the occasion and thanks Gary Schlee for coming up with the idea.

11:27 'Bonnie' has a question about the relevancy of social media to the budding PR practitioner.

18:50 Paul Jenkins asks Terry and David about practical applications and case studies of social media initiatives being successful for organizations.

25:08 'Sarah' asks a question about the challenges PR graduates will face on their first job.

31:14 'Shannon from semester 2' asks about how to find a job.

35:12 Joe Chawla asks about the 'ideal' level of engagement that students and PR practitioners should have with new social media tools.

38:57 Kristin Zemlak asks about how transparency in social media is affecting ethics in public relations.

42:50 Greg Weiss asks about how to recover your brand and reputation once you've blown it in the blogosphere.

48:15 Inside PRoper English - 'uninterested' vs. 'disinterested'.

49:45 Terry thanks the audience and Gary Schlee and signs off.

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This week on Inside PR, Dave goes deep and behind-the-scenes with Melanie Kurzuk from CNW (Canada News Wire).

Show Notes

00:25 Terry introduces the show.

01:14 Terry talks about the new GM Green by Design podcast.

02:18 Dave announces that he has a new podcast called Shill co-produced that he co-produces with Doug Walker.

04:08 Dave and Terry discuss their plans for the 100th episode of Inside PR.

07:30 Tom Reidt writes in with a comment.

09:30 Megan Ramsay also writes in about her experience finding a PR job.

12:44 Mike Keliher writes to ask that Terry and Dave keep Inside PRoper English on the show.

13:59 Dave introduces this week's special interview with Melanie Kurzuk from CNW. She's Senior Vice President of CNW's News and Information Technology Divison.

36:18 Dave and Melanie talk about Social Media Releases.

41:44 A mystery listener writes in to comment on last week's Inside PRoper English segment.

45:00 Inside PRoper English: all together vs. altogether.

48:50 Dave signs off.

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This week on Inside PR, Dave goes deep and behind-the-scenes with Melanie Kurzuk from CNW (Canada News Wire).

Show Notes to follow!

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and Dave welcome a comment from new listener James McNally regarding ethics in PR and discuss what kind of education PR firms are looking for.

Show Notes

00:26 Dave introduces the show. 

00:59 Podcamp Toronto promo. 

02:20 Announcement: Dave talks about Dave Forde's new blog PR in Canada which launched this week. New contributors are welcomed and wanted. 

03:47 Terry and Dave discuss the 100th episode of Inside PR set to air February 26, 2008.

08:35 Terry tells us about his trip to Las Vegas.

09:28 An email comment from James McNally about ethics in PR.

10:57 Topic of discussion 1: Ethics in PR.

    Terry and Dave revisit experiences in the past involving ethical decisions in the past and reference Astroturfing, "Clean Coal" and Thank you for smoking by Christopher Buckley (the book and the film.) 

20:45 Topic of discussion 2: What education are PR firms looking for? 

    In the style of Inside the Actors Studio, Dave asks Terry a series of questions as he recalled them from the two students of PR who had left comments earlier in the week. 

33:31 Inside PRoper English: The redundancy of "advance forward".

35:55 Terry wraps up the show.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and Dave talk about social media tools and discuss whether or not social media is a prerequisite for a PR student to be hired.

Show notes

00:26 Terry introduces the show.

01:03 Terry discusses his trip to McMaster University where he spoke to an MBA class on social media.

04:40 Dave shares his interesting Facebook experience.

07:02 Podcamp Toronto promo.

09:40 Topic of discussion 1: Social media tools and you.

15:37 Dave discusses barriers to social media tools.

22:12 Topic of discussion 2: Is social media activity a prerequisite for PR students to be hired?

22:48 Inside PRoper English: The difference between e.g. and i.e.

30:58 Dave wraps up the show.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and Dave talk about social media tools and discuss whether or not social media activity is a prerequisite for a PR student to be hired.

 

Show notes

00:26 Terry introduces the show.

01:03 Terry discusses his trip to McMaster University where he spoke to an MBA class on social media.

04:40 Dave shares his interesting Facebook experience.

07:02 Podcamp Toronto promo.

09:40 Topic of discussion 1: Social media tools and you.

15:37 Dave discusses barriers to social media tools.

22:12 Topic of discussion 2: Is social media activity a prerequisite for PR students to be hired?

22:48 Inside PRoper English: The difference between e.g. and i.e.

30:58 Dave wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks, and is courtesy of the Podsafe music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David take a cue from Michael Netzley's comment and discuss what Cicero meant by 'eloquence'.

Show Notes

00:30 Dave introduces the show.

00:55 Podcamp Toronto 2008 promo.

02:38 Audio comment from Deborah Zanke from Message Communications on measurement.

06:27 Terry and Dave receive a comment on their blog from Bob Crawshaw.

07:21 Michael Allison sent Dave a Twitter message to ask what he and Terry think about the effects that a downturn in the US economy might have on the practice of public relations.

11:03 Dave announces some breaking news.

13:08 Alan Fryer from CTV and W-5 sends in an audio comment about his move to the Dark Side.

15:39 Michael Netzley sends in the latest installment of Communications Through the Ages: Cicero.

20:51 Dave and Terry discuss Cicero and 'eloquence' as their main topic of discussion.

27:42 Inside PRoper English: Josh Turner calls in to ask about Terry and Dave's least favourite business jargon. Terry still dislikes 'impactful'.

32:03 Terry signs off.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and Dave continue the discussion on measurement and public relations and stakeholder relations in particular. 

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

00:58 Podcamp Toronto Promo.

03:38 The Blogger Team WON Test the Nation, but Dave isn't completely satisfied with his score.

06:00 A thank you to Michael Netzley and Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with sketch) for their scholarly debate about Aristotle in the comments section of last week's podcast on the Inside PR show blog.

07:27 A comment from Doug Haslam about measurement.

13:28 Another perspective on measurement in a comment from Alan Chumley.

18:39 Terry and David revisit measurement and stakeholder relations.

27:38 Inside PRoper English suggestion sent in via audio comment from Jay Moonah: 'everyday' vs 'every day'.

30:53 Dave wraps up the show.

 

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This week on Inside PR, Dave and Terry discuss ideas about how to measure stakeholder relations campaigns and tactics. They also welcome comments from Michael Netzley, Bob Ledrew and Amy Cole.

Show Notes

00:35 Dave introduces the show and reminds listeners that he will be on the TV show Test the Nation: Trivia this Sunday, January 20.

03:58 Dave talks about what he wears when he blogs.

06:20 Terry announces that Thornley Fallis has signed up two new social media folks: Michael Seaton and Bob Ledrew.

08:13 Terry welcomes a commentary on the history of professional communication from Michael Netzley. He phoned in to share his first installment of what will become a 'Communications Legacies' series.

17:04 Dave and Terry welcome a 'Rudolph' comment from Bob Ledrew.

21:21 Amy Cole writes in with a comment about how to measure stakeholder-relations communication plans. Dave and Terry decide to use the idea as today's main topic.

32:19 Inside PRoper English: Thanks to Sallie Goetsch for these words to avoid: 'actionable' and 'learnings'.

33:47 Terry winds up the show with all pertinent details. Fans of Inside PR on Facebook click here to join.

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This week on Inside PR, Dave and Terry come up with 6 Reasons why agencies should do pro bono work.  They also welcome comments from Tom Reed, Dave Delaney, Bernie Goldbach, and Bob Crawshaw.

 Show Notes

00:35 Terry introduces the show.

04:58 Email comment from Tom Reed re: Christmas edition Inside PR podcast.

06:04 Comment from Dave Delaney re: Christmas edition Inside PR podcast.

13:32 A comment from Bernie Goldbach re: Inside PRoper English and the importance of localizing words.

15:33 Email comment from Bob Crawshaw of Maine Street Marketing, in Canberra Australia, re: pro bono work.

19:21 Terry introduces this week's topic: 6 reasons why agencies should do pro bono work.

27:39 Inside PRoper English: semiannual vs. biannual vs. biennial.

29:30 Dave signs off with all pertinent details.  Fans of Inside PR on Facebook click here to join.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry come up with 8 New Year's Resolutions that they hope their clients are making for 2008. They also welcome comments from Bob LeDrew, Joe Thornley and Josh Turner.

Show Notes

00:34 Dave introduces the show.

03:20 Email comment from Bob LeDrew re: Veritas' social media survey.

05:15 A comment from Joe Thornley on the Inside PR blog re: developing a social media measurement roundtable event.

07:14 Josh Turner also commented on the Inside PR blog with a link to a chronological history of Santa Claus.

08:00 Dave introduces this week's main topic: 8 New Year's Resolutions That We Hope Our Clients Are Writing.

29:30 Inside PRoper English: appraise vs. apprise.

30:20 Terry signs off with all of the pertinent details. Fans of Inside PR on Facebook - click here to join.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discussed what they would ask for if they could create a social media and PR wish list.  Also, they welcome audio comments from David Fleet and Bernard Goldbach.

Show Notes 

00:36 David introduces the show. 

01:06 David and Terry welcomes a comment from Dave Fleet

01:10 Dave Fleet gives his comments on the Veritas survey. 

02:38 David and Terry address Dave Fleet's comments and the Veritas survey results. 

03:48 Dave and Terry welcome a comment from Bernie Goldbach

03:50 Bernie Golbach thanks David and Terry for a great show and talks about how he records and plays many episodes of Inside PR for his class incorporating it into his curriculum. 

04:58 David and Terry thank Bernie for his comment. 

06:28 David introduces today main topic: Social Media & a PR Wish list 

27:43 Inside PRoper English: The redundant phrase - "The reason is, because..."

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about pro bono work in public relations agencies.

Show Notes

00:36 Terry introduces the show.

01:49 David and Terry welcome their first comment from Bernie Goldbach about address book etiquette.

12:00 Ian Hull calls in with a comment about embracing podcasting in a business setting.

16:07 Deborah Zanke calls in with follow up comments and questions about pro bono work and communications.

32:09 PRoper English segment on the meaning of the word 'enormity'.

34:38 Dave wraps up the show.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss Veritas' launch of their new social media boutique com.motion. They also welcome comments from Wei-Jean Garland and Omar Ha-Redeye.
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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss PR Agencies: Then and Now.  They also discuss how agencies of the future may or may not integrate social media and the possible consequences.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry introduces the show.

02:15 Terry introduces main topic: PR Agencies, Then and Now.

22:40 Inside PRoper English: Peruse

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss the UK launch of the iPhone and how PR practitoners need to be aware of their role in their clients' stories.  They also welcome comments from Bernie Goldbach and Dave Fleet.

Show Notes

00:30 Dave introduces the show.

01:21 David and Terry welcome a comment from Bernie Goldbach.

02:43 Dave Fleet calls in with a response to Bernie's comment last week. 

03:54 Terry and Dave briefly discuss how people can misinterpret email and online communciation. 

06:00  Dave introduces today's main topic: the UK launch of the iPhone and how PR practitoners need to be aware of their role in their clients' stories. 

30:10 Inside PRoper English: Amuse vs. Bemuse

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss how to have "collegial conversation" (online and off). Also, they welcome audio comments from Jon Hoel, Michelle Kostya, Doug Haslam, Shel Holtz and Bernard Goldbach.

Show Notes

00:32 Terry introduces the show.

01:06 David and Terry remind listeners that the Talk is Cheap event is coming up and that Terry is having a book launch for The Best Laid Plans at the Dora Keogh Pub on November 19.

03:14 Jon Hoel shares his thoughts on how to show support for Terry's book, The Best Laid Plans.

06:00 An email comment from Michelle Kostya

08:20 An audio comment from Doug Haslam.


13:45 An audio comment from Shel Holtz.

 

18:45 An audio comment from Bernie Goldbach that kicks off this week's topic: the importance of having collegial yet critical conversations.

32:00 Inside PRoper English: The improper use of the word 'hopefully'.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about the sometimes volatile relationship between journalists and public relations practitioners. They also welcome comments from Doug Walker, Dan York, Bernard Goldbach and Michael Netzley.

Show Notes

00:28 Dave introduces the show and reminds interested people to register for the 'Talk is Cheap' un-conference by signing up here.

02:16 Terry announces that the booklaunch for his novel, "The Best Laid Plans" will take place on November 19 at the Dora Keogh pub in Toronto.


02:55 Email comment from Doug Walker about last week's topic: Work/Life Balance.

05:02 Dan York calls in with a comment.

06:45 Bernie Goldbach lets us know about the 2007 Personal Branding Global Telesummit that will take place Thursday, November 8.

09:45 Dave introduces this week's topic: The strained relationship between journalists and public relations practitioners. The topic was inspired by this blog post by Chris Anderson, editor-in-chief of Wired Magazine.

28:53 Terry hands over Inside PRoper English to Michael Netzley from Singapore. Michael also co-hosts the PR Junction podcast with John Hoel.

33:00 Terry wraps up the show.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about work/life balance in an agency.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

03:18 Promo for Social Media Today: A podcast by Doug Walker.


09:15 Audio comment from Bernie Goldbach in Tipperary, Ireland.

13:42 Email comment from Dave Fleet about stakeholder relations.

16:12 David introduces this week's topic: Maintaining a work/life balance when you work at an agency.

29:34 Inside PRoper English: Loath vs. Loathe.

31:32 Dave wraps up the show.Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about communications plans and their components.

Show Notes

00:36 David introduces the show.

01:29 Promo for Talk is Cheap: A social media unconference for corporate communications and public relations folks on Thursday, November 15, 2007, from 6 to 9 p.m. at the Centre for Creative Communications (Centennial College) in Toronto.


04:05 Terry announces that he will be speaking in London (Ontario) this week at a Financial Executives International (Southwestern Ontario branch) dinner meeting and at Fanshawe College.

05:07 David apologizes for not making it to Vanouver last week.

06:08 Terry introduces this week's topic: Communications Plans.

34:52 Inside PRoper English: Orient vs. orientate.

33:15 Inside PRoper English: Prepositions at the end of sentences.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about salary, compensation and what else to consider when working for a public relations agency.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show and laments the lack of comments this week.

01:27 David announces that he is going to Vancouver this week to attend Third Tuesday and to speak at the Canadian Association of Zoos and Aquariums. Terry notes that Third Tuesday Toronto will feature Darren Barefoot and that Third Tuesday Ottawa will feature Danielle Donders.

02:58 Terry introduces the main topic of discussion for the week: the complex issue of salary and compensation in public relations. David was inspired to talk about it after reading Julie Rusciolelli's blog.

 

30:20 David has an announcement for Terry.

33:15 Inside PRoper English: Prepositions at the end of sentences.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about conflict resolution and mediation in public relations.

Show Notes

00:32 David introduces the show.

01:49 David talks about the Buffalo vs. Dallas game.

02:15 Terry and David discuss the difference between American and Canadian Thanksgiving.

02:50 Terry reminds listeners of upcoming Third Tuesday events: Toronto - October 15 (featuring Darren Barefoot), Ottawa - October 15 (featuring ‘Mommy Blogger’ Danielle Donders) and Vancouver - October 16 (featuring Joseph Thornley and David Jones).

03:45 Farewell to Chris Clarke, PR buddy. Hello Kyra Aylsworth, new producer of Inside PR.

06:20 David opens a discussion: Is the news release dead?

12:47 Comment from Doug Haslam from Topaz Partners.

15:40 David reads an email from Seneca Corporate Communications student, A.J. Welsh regarding the relevance of conflict resolution in public relations.

17:20 Discussion on the difference between practicing conflict resolution, mediation and crisis management in public relations.

28:35 PRoper English segment on the difference between ‘gamut’ and ‘gambit’.

31:05 Closing remarks.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about podcasting and it's role within public relations.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:30 Terry talks about Podcast Expo.

07:55 Terry introduces the main topic of discussion for the week: podcasting and public relations.

29:30 Inside PRoper English: what

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss building your PR team. They also welcome audio comments from Bryan Person and Francis Wooby

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:30 David brings up the latest Third Tuesday events. Visit the central sites for Third Tuesday Ottawa, Third Tuesday Toronto, and Third Tuesday Vancouver, as well as the Third Tuesday Facebook Group.

05:25 Terry mentions that he'll be attending the Podcast and New Media  Expo next week in Ontario, California.

07:30 Bryan Person calls in with an audio comment.

17:20 Francis Wooby sends in an audio comment.

18:45 This week's main topic for discussion is building your PR team.

36:00 Inside PRoper English: you could care less

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In this week's episode, David and Terry discuss the place of young PR professionals in the workplace. They also welcome audio comments from Gary Schlee and Michael Allison.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:10 Terry mentions that he'll be attending the Podcast and New Media  Expo next week in Ontario, California.

04:05  Gary Schlee chimes in with an audio comment. He mentions these links in his commentary: The Princeton Review, Gary's A Class Act blog, PR Conversations, and the IABC Advocacy Commons.

07:30 Michael Allison calls in asking about the young PR professional debate raging in the blogosphere.This leads into David and Terry's main topic for discussion this week. One of the posts David mentions in this discussion is from the Marcom Blog at Auburn University.

30:00 Inside PRoper English: the subtle difference between persuade and convince

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In this week's episode of Inside PR, David and Terry have a lot to talk about. They welcome a number of comments, and discuss the importance of understanding how PR fits into the bigger picture of business.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:30 Very special announcement: Terry's novel, The Best Laid Plans, is available for sale. Pick it up at Amazon.com or Chapters-Indigo.  For more info, visit Terry's website.

02:45 David and Terry mention the Vancouver Third Tuesday event.

10:00 Donna Papacosta writes in a comment

11:30 Sallie Goetsch writes a comment on the blog

13:00 Brian Blank writes in with some knowledge

14:15 Kyle Whitehead from Lethbridge College in Lethbridge, Alberta sends in an audio comment about post-PR graduate work.

18:25 Diane Hodges writes in with a comment about the importance of understanding business for PR professionals. This leads to this week's main topic for discussion.

31:00 Inside PRoper English: raise up and lower down

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David discuss public relations as a profession. They also welcome an audio comment from Omar Ha-Redeye.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:10 Terry and David were on vacation - they talk about how they coped without each other.

03:45 Omar Ha-Redeye sends in an audio comment.

09:40 Christine Smith and Dave Fleet write in with comments on PR as a profession. This leads into this week's main topic for discussion on the profession of PR.

31:00 Inside PRoper English: continual and continuous

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This week is the vacation edition. With both of them on vacation,  Terry and David recorded this edition early. This week, they discuss how they got into the PR business.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:30 Terry and David are on vacation - this is the vacation edition.

02:15 Terry says that he and David will discuss how they made their careers in PR. Neither intended to work in PR until they were actually working in it.

26:00 Inside PRoper English: check back next week!

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss the differences between big and small agencies. 

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:15 Terry mentions that he and Terry will be doing a mini-show next week, as they will both be on vacation.

03:45 David and Terry talk about a study about winning business at PR firms.

06:30 This leads into the major topic of discussion for the week: big agency vs. small agency. They discuss their careers working at both large and small agencies.

30:40 Inside PRoper English: accommodate

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry list the 5 questions you should be asking your social media firm. They also welcome an audio comment from Doug Haslem

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:15 Inside PR has been nominated for a Podcast Award in the Business category. The voting closed on Saturday. The winners will be announced on Wednesday, August 15.

02:05 David mentions the CMA Awards, for which he and Terry are senior judges for the PR award.

06:30 Doug Haslem chimes in with an audio comment.

09:20 Terry apologizes for "monetize" on air.

13:30 This week's main topic of discussion: 5 questions for your social media agency.

32:00 To recap the 5 questions: Do you blog yourself? What blogs and podcasts do you recommend? What clients have you got into social media? What do you think of ghost blogging? How do you approach a blogger who wrote something negative?

32:20 Inside PRoper English: the difference between take and bring

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry continue their discussion about the senior-level PR practitioner. They also welcome comments from Bryan Person, Chip Griffin, and Joe Thornley

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:15 Inside PR has been nominated for a Podcast Award in the Business category. Click here to vote. You can vote once daily, and be sure to validate your vote via email.

03:05 David mentions the CMA Awards, for which he and Terry are senior judges for the PR award.

06:00 David mentions the Social Media Group's big win with Ford.

09:00 An audio comment from Joe Thornley.

12:00 Bryan Person chimes in with a comment.

14:40 Chip Griffin from Custom Scoop weighs in with an audio comment. This leads to David and Terry returning to the topic Joseph Jaffe's latest promotion for Across the Sound.

24:00 This week's main topic of discussion: the continued discussion of the senior people at PR firms.

34:00 Inside PRoper English: monetize is still not a word, along with access (as a  verb) prioritize and priorize, impactful, deliverable, guest and gift (as verbs).

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss discuss making the transition from the role of manager to leader in a PR firm. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Bobby Hewitt. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:45 David and Terry talk about the recent Special Edition they recorded with Brad Matson and Janina Palhares from Breakfast Television about pitching the media.

05:10 Inside PR has been nominated for a Podcast Award in the Business category. Click here to vote. You can vote once daily, and be sure to validate your vote via email.

10:00 An audio comment from Bobby Hewitt.

15:35 David and Terry discuss Joseph Jaffe's latest promotion for Across the Sound.

23:00 This week's main topic of discussion: becoming more senior at a PR firm, and making the transition from the role of manager to leader in a PR firm.

360:00 Inside PRoper English: monetize is not a word

38:00 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. Click here to vote for Inside PR for a Podcast Award.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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In this special edition, David and Terry get together to chat with two producers of Canada's top morning show, Breakfast Television. Joining them from BT are Janina Palhares and Brad Matson. They discuss everything from good pitches to bad pitches, how to best reach them, the best and worst things PR people have done to them, and much more.

A big thank you to Brad and Janina for doing this, and we hope to have them back again someday soon.


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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss ethics, staff turnover, post-mortems, and mentoring. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Luke Armour and Doug Haslem. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:35 An audio comment from Doug Haslem.

07:40 A comment from Sheri Morgan about transience.

11:35 An comment from Parker Mason about ethics.

25:55 An audio comment from Luke Armour about mentoring. This turns into this week's main topic of discussion.

37:10 Inside PRoper English: nouns misused as verbs, like access and partner.

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Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss managing yourself and managing people at a PR firm. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Bryan Person. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:45 David brings up that he was on a panel with Leona Hobbs talking about blogging recently.

04:40 A comment from Dave Fleet of the Ontario Government.

07:35 An audio comment from Bryan Person.

12:35 This week's main topic of discussion: managing yourself and managing staff at a PR firm.

30:00 Inside PRoper English: virile and viral, and "key learnings"

31:20 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. 

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss the happenings at a PR firm after a client relationship has ended.  Also, they welcome an audio comment from Luke Armour. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:25 David brings up that nominations are open for the Podcasting Awards.

03:40 Luke Armour calls in with a comment.

09:15 This week's major topic of discussion: the client project postmortem.

25:20 Inside PRoper English: split infinitives

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss getting your client relationships started off right.  There are comments from Omar Ha-Redeye, Jonathan Dunn and Natasha Guiry. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:12 Terry notes Chris Clark is on vacation and we're self-producing the podcast this week.  Fingers crossed.

02:03 Dave notes we came in second in the Most Valuable Podcast bracket competition.  The brilliant American Copywriter podcast was the winner.

03:37 Omar Ha-Redeye calls in with a comment about how different ethnicities may learn soft skills in different ways. 

09:26 Jonathan Dunn calls in with a comment about the social media community in Toronto and the state of soft skills in the PR industry.

14:47 Natasha Guiry sends in a comment about how efficiency and effectiveness is lost when all parties aren't on the same page.

18:50 This week's topic: getting your client relationships started off right both formally and informally by establishing trust, setting expectations and talking about the reporting process.

33:52 Inside PRoper English: perpetuate and perpetrate.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry are overwhelmed by PR student contributions. They use one of those contributions as a jumping-off point for their major topic of discussion.  Also, they welcome audio comments from Michael Allison, Scott MacDonald, and Omar Ha-Redeye. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:20 Terry talks about his time at Podcasters Across Borders 2007.

06:30 Omar Ha-Redeye calls in with a comment. 

09:30 Scott MacDonald calls in with a comment as well.

12:45 Michael Allison contributes another PR student comment. 

17:40 This week's major topic of discussion stems from an email from a recent PR graduate from Humber College, Lauren Schneider, who is working at the Royal Ontario Museum. Her comment is about things you don't learn at PR school but need to learn on the job. Terry and David go off talking about other things that are important in PR that might not be taught in PR school.

27:50 Inside PRoper English: tortuous and torturous

29:00 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. Inside PR are in the finals of the Most Valuable Podcasts (MVP) contest. Click here to vote as Inside PR goes against American Copywriter.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss the importance of good writing in the PR profession. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Doug Haslam. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:20 David mentions that this will be the last time they mention the open slot for a new student/young PR contributor.

02:00 Terry mentions that he'll be at Podcasters Across Borders in two weeks. He will sit on a panel called Taking Your Initiatives to the Next Level. David will unfortunately not be able to make it to the conference.

04:10 Audio comment from Doug Haslam.

12:00 Listener Matthew Tarnowski asks: Which dictionaries would he/she recommend when trying to make a case against misuse of words like utilize and leverage?

17:40 This week's major topic of discussion: are good writers made or born?

35:20 Inside PRoper English: apostrophe roundup

36:20 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. Inside PR are in the finals of the Most Valuable Podcasts (MVP) contest. Click here to vote as Inside PR goes against American Copywriter.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss a comment David Philips left to For Immediate Release: The Hobson and Holtz Report #246, about big PR agencies not "getting" social media. Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:20 Terry mentions that he'll be at Podcasters Across Borders in two weeks. He will sit on a panel called Taking Your Initiatives to the Next Level. David will unfortunately not be able to make it to the conference.

05:40 Terry and David pay tribute to For Immediate Release: The Hobson and Holtz Report, as the podcasting pair are approaching a true milestone: their 250th episode.

14:10 The major topic of discussion for the week: David and Terry discuss a comment David Philips left to For Immediate Release: The Hobson and Holtz Report #246, about big PR agencies not "getting" social media.

35:20 Inside PRoper English: ending sentences with a preposition

38:20 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. Inside PR are in the finals of the Most Valuable Podcasts (MVP) contest. Click here to vote as Inside PR goes against American Copywriter.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss awards in the PR business. They welcome audio comments from Omar Ha-Redeye and Jon Hoel. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

02:10 David introduces an audio comment from Omar Ha-Redeye.

05:40 Terry and David talk about the latest Toronto Third Tuesday and the mesh conference.

08:30 Inside PR are in the finals of the Most Valuable Podcasts (MVP) contest. Click here to vote as Inside PR goes against American Copywriter.

11:30 The major topic of discussion for the week: PR Awards

28:40 Jon Hoel sends in an Inside PRoper English mashup.

30:40 Inside PRoper English: exact and same

32:20 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. 

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss media relations within the broader scope of public relations. They welcome audio comments from Doug Walker, Francis Wooby, and Darryl C. from Calgary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

03:45 Terry mentions the May Third Tuesday Toronto event.

06:00 Darryl C. from Calgary calls in with a comment.

08:30 Stephen Lewis from Zest Digital in Australia sends in this link about blogging in the workplace.

11:00 Francis Wooby sends in an audio comment.

15:30 Terry kicks off this week's major topic of discussion: the role media relations plays within PR

28:40 Doug Walker sends in an audio contribution.

35:00 Inside PRoper English: definite and definitive

36:20 David mentions the Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook.  Click here to join the group on Facebook. To vote for Inside PR on the Most Valuable Podcast awards, click here to vote.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry continue their chat about ghost blogging and discuss the state of Toronto's professional communication awards. They welcome audio comments from Michelle Book, Joe Thornley, Mitch Joel, Paull Young, Patricia Parsons, and Julie Rusciolelli. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

01:45 Michelle Book sends in an audio comment from the entry-level perspective.

07:35 Joe Thornley chimes in with a plug for the latest Third Tuesday and Third Monday sessions.

12:00 Audio comments on the topic of ghost blogging from Mitch Joel, Patricia Parsons, and Paull Young.

20:50 David and Terry discuss the comments on the topic of ghost blogging.

29:30 Julie Rusciolelli sends in an audio contribution on the topic of communication awards in Toronto.

36:30 Inside PRoper English: farther and further

38:20 David mentions the Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook.  Click here to join the group on Facebook. To vote for Inside PR on the Most Valuable Podcast awards, click here to vote.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry have a discussion about ghost blogging for clients. They also welcome an audio comment from Dan York. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

05:35 Francis Wooby wants to let listeners know that the CBC's look at the PR industry is available as a podcast. The show was a 6-part series called Spin Cycles. It has been available as a podcast for a while on the CBC's website here.

06:35 Dan York calls in with a comment.

10:30 This week's major topic of discussion: ghost blogging for clients.

27:30 Inside PRoper English: stationary and stationery

29:30 Terry mentions the Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook.  Click here to join the group on Facebook. To vote for Inside PR on the Most Valuable Podcast awards, click here to vote.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss the top 3 ways to use public opinion research in public relations. Also, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show

02:30 David mentions that he sat on a panel at From Mass to Grass: Canada's Word of Mouth Marketing Conference. Here is the discussion, from Michael Seaton's The Client Side podcast.


04:15 David mentions the Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook.  Click here to join the group on Facebook. To vote for Inside PR on the Most Valuable Podcast awards, click here to vote.

06:30 Terry mentions that there are no comments this week, nor are there any commentary. This leads to the main topic of discussion for the week: market research.

08:00 The top 3 ways of using public opinion research for PR.

08:15 The first use is to drive media relations.

14:45 The second use is to hone your key messages.

20:00 The third use is to drive the development of the communications strategy and the overall plan.

27:30 Inside PRoper English: a round-up of redundancies.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry have a chat about professional spring cleaning. They also welcome audio comments from Jamey Shiels, Elizabeth Hirst, and Boyd Neil. They also welcome an audio contribution from Gary Schlee. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show

02:30 Terry mentions the latest Luke Armour virtual-PR meetup. The latest is called A Virtual PR Murder Mystery, featuring many prominent podcasters.


04:55 David introduces a comment from Jamey Shiels.

07:00 David introduces Elizabeth Hirst's comment on introducing social media into a Canadian PR curriculum.

12:30 Boyd Neil sends in a comment about Facebook.

16:15 David mentions the Most Valuable Podcast contest going on over at Fly Over Marketing. Go vote for Inside PR here.

18:15 David introduces the main topic of the week: spring cleaning for your PR career.

20:00 The first tip is to work on a shortcoming.

23:30 The second tip is to know what you don't know.  

24:30 The third tip is to ask yourself what you want to be known for. What is your brand?

25:30 The fourth tip is to get a mentor, be a mentor, or both.  

27:40 The fifth and final tip is to lose the "do what you're told" approach

30:30 Gary Schlee sends in an audio commentary.

36:30 Inside PRoper English: over vs. more than

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry have a discussion about the information interview thanks to an audio comment from Scott MacDonald. They also welcome an audio comment from Bob LeDrew and a contribution from Doug Walker. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show

01:30 Eric Bergman passes along this link to an article on media training and this podcast interview he did with Jennifer McClure.


02:45 Bob LeDrew calls in with a comment.

07:30 David's brother Graeme writes in with a commentary.

10:00 Scott MacDonald calls in with a comment on information interviews.

12:30 Terry and David use Scott's question as a jumping off point and discuss the information interview. They mention Chris Clarke's promo on Across the Sound/For Immediate Release.

30:45 Doug Walker returns with another commentary. 

33:10 Inside PRoper English: adverse and averse

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry revisit the topic of media training. They also welcome audio comments from Bryan Person and Shel Holtz. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

03:20
David talks about attending and speaking at the Canadian Marketing Conference: From Mass to Grass.

09:15 Terry marks the passing of an icon in Canadian public relations, Charles Tisdale.

11:20 An audio comment from Bryan Person.

16:10 An audio comment from Shel Holtz

19:00 Alan Chumley leaves a comment to the show blog.

20:30 David kicks off this week's main topic: media training

33:10 Inside PRoper English: principal and principle

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week, David and Terry talk about working with other types of agencies as part of a program. They also welcome an audio contribution from Collin Douma. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

04:55
David mentions that he will be speaking at the Canadian Marketing Conference: From Mass to Grass.

07:05 Donal Doherty from Converse Communications in London, England writes in with a question: how do you build your new PR practice?

12:20 This week's main topic: working with other types of agencies as part of a campaign.

27:35 This week's contribution is from Collin Douma, who talks about the term Web 2.0

34:05 Inside PRoper English: number and amount

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This week, David and Terry talk about the importance of evaluation as part of a PR campaign. They also welcome an audio comment from Francis Wooby. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

02:25 Francis Wooby
sends in an audio comment.

09:05 Francis also passed on a link to a survey at Emerson College about the level of engagement among podcast listeners.

11:20 This week's main topic: evaluation

28:35 David mentions some measurement resources: KD Paine's blog, Alan Chumley's blog, and the IABC Creative Commons measurement page.

29:50 Inside PRoper English: uninterested and disinterested

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This week marks the one-year anniversary of Inside PR. David and Terry take a look back on the year that was, welcome audio comments from Gary Schlee, Terry's brother Tim Fallis, Mitch Joel, and Keith Childs. They welcome a contribution from Gary Schlee of Centennial College. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

07:21
Mitch Joel sends in an audio comment.

09:55 Tim Fallis, Terry's twin brother, sends in an audio comment. 

14:10 Keith Childs of Zurich sends in an audio comment.

16:15 Gary Schlee sends in his congrats on Episode 52

18:20 Terry and David take a look back on Episode #1.

37:33 This week's contribution is from Gary Schlee.

44:04 Inside PRoper English: answer back

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This special edition of Inside PR is extra-special.

Ira Basen, the host of the 6-part CBC Radio series "Spin Cycles", has been kind enough to speak with Ottawa-area PR professional Bob LeDrew, author of the Flacklife blog. The end result is a terrific discussion between the two about public relations today and it's role within the ever-changing Canadian media landscape.

Thanks to our good friend Bob LeDrew for sending this to us, and thanks to Ira Basen for agreeing to the interview.


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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry discuss an audio clip from Sally Goetsch ("rhymes with sketch") recorded at the Venture Voice Startup Workshop on what public relations is. Also, they welcome audio comments from Mitch Joel, Donna Papacosta and Bob Ledrew. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

06:16
Mitch Joel sends in with an audio promo for his new podcast, Foreword Thinking.

08:19 Donna Papacosta sends in a congratulatory comment on 50 episodes of Inside PR.

10:25 Bob Ledrew calls in with a comment.

14:00 Lorne Burger writes in with a question about early-adopter status of social media.

22:05 Sally Goetsch sent in a clip from the Venture Voice Startup Workshop. David and Terry discuss.

32:00 This week's contribution is from Doug Walker.

43:33 Inside PRoper English: rein and reign

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David host another comment-cast. They welcome audio comments from Luke Armour, Francis Wooby, Doug Walker, Jon Hoel, and Michael Seaton. They also bid farewell to Chris Clarke's segment and usher in a new era with a contribution from Boyd Neil. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 David introduces the show.

06:55
Michael Seaton calls in with a comment.

10:45 Luke Armour calls in with his congratulations.

14:37 Jon Hoel chimes in with a comment and some congratulations.

18:27 Francis Wooby comments from majestic Iqualuit, Nunavut.

22:20 Doug Walker is calls in with a few things to say.

29:10 Chris Clarke's final commentary.

35:02 Boyd Neil contributes a segment to Inside PR.

40:30 Inside PRoper English: exasperate and exacerbate

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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In this special edition of Inside PR, David moderates a panel for CPRS Toronto called Reaching Out to Bloggers: Do's and Don'ts, featuring Mathew Ingram, Business and Technology writer at the Globe and Mail and globeandmail.com; Mark Evans, VP of Operations of b5 Media; Stewart McDonald, an e-business and marketing consultant, formerly CMO of Expedia.com and founder of Expedia.ca; and Jasmine from Confessions of a Cardamom Addict blog.

Hope you enjoy this episode. Be forewarned: it's almost two full hours of unedited honesty about pitching stories to the blogosphere. Enjoy!


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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the importance of your company being involved in social media.  Also, they welcome audio comments from Colin Douma and Andrew Findlater.  Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

09:46
Colin Douma calls in with a comment about astroturfing.

11:45 Andrew Findlater calls in with a comment about investing in client relationships.

21:07 Terry introduces this week's main topic: should your company be involved in social media?

376:07 Inside PRoper English: its/it's

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about investing in existing client relationships.  Also, they play a segment Terry recorded with Luke Armour. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

 

00:30 David introduces the show.

09:16
Luke and Terry at the Hockey Hall of Fame.

12:45 David introduces this week's main topic: investing in client relationships.

32:18 Chris Clarke's commentary.

37:00 Inside PRoper English: I feel bad/I feel badly

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about celebrity and public relations. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Mitch Joel. They mention the upcoming Podcamp Toronto coming February 24-25. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

03:37 Comment: Mitch Joel. Mitch suggests you check out Beyond Bullets for better presentation skills.

12:31 David introduces this week's main topic: celebrity and PR

30:30 Chris Clarke's commentary.

34:20 Inside PRoper English: allusion and illusion

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about athletes cliches. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Bryan Person. They mention the upcoming Podcamp Toronto coming February 24-25. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

00:30 David introduces the show.

11:33 Comment: Bryan Person.

13:39 David introduces this week's main topic: athletes cliches.

28:58 Chris Clarke's commentary.

32:47 Inside PRoper English: illicit and elicit

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the news conference and how it has evolved in recent history. Also, they welcome audio comments from Donna Papacosta and Jamey Shiels. They mention the upcoming Podcamp Toronto coming February 24-25. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

03:32 Comments: Donna Papacosta and Jamey Shiels

09:50 David introduces this week's main topic: the news conference.

25:50 Chris Clarke's commentary.

30:33 Inside PRoper English: imminent and eminent

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the future of social media and PR's place within it. Also, they welcome audio comments from Paull Young, Andrew Findlater, and Colin Douma. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry wants to point listeners to an interview he did with Paull Young for the Forward Podcast.

03:12 Terry talks about his venture into the world of audio book podcasting with his novel The Best Laid Plans, this week with an offer to have his book listed on Podiobooks.

04:10 David talks about a possible new feature on Inside PR: phonecasting, which allows listeners to download podcasts to their cell phones.

05:15 David talks about a podcast interview he did with Eric Bergman about the MRP system he helped pioneer.

6:55 Terry kicks off this week's batch of comments with an email from Michael Keliher. He talks about a promotional giveaway that listeners can enter here.

09:12 David introduces an audio comment from Andrew Findlater of National PR, who is in search of a social media savvy PR professional.

14:10 Terry introduces an audio comment from Paull Young on Canada's social media scene.

15:20 David introduces an audio comment from Colin Douma. Colin wonders what the future of PR, marketing, and social media are going to look like.

21:30 Terry and David use Colin's question as this week's main topic for discussion. Terry has a sense that there will be some change in communications as everyone tries to put a stake in social media. David thinks that the focus needs to be on the conversation and on the fact that we need not go through the media anymore. David asks the question: will marketing and PR change because of social media?

29:05 Terry adds that PR isn't about selling, and that's why he thinks we're best suited to own social media.

31:58 Terry introduces Chris Clarke's commentary this week.

35:28 Inside PRoper English: in terms of

37:50 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David once again discuss the art of presentations, focusing specifically on effective presentation skills this week. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Bob Ledrew. Chris Clarke contributes his weekly commentary. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry and David talk about Third Tuesday Toronto from last week.

03:12 Terry introduces an audio comment from Bob Ledrew, a PR practitioner and blogger from Ottawa, who talks about effective presentation skills. This leads to a short discussion about Powerpoint and leads into the main topic for the week.

07:30 David introduces the main topic of the week: effective presentation skills.

08:07 Terry's first point is that when presenting, you must be yourself. You shouldn't stand in front of an audience and perform, although you should dial it up a little bit. David thinks your presentation self is different than your normal self. He says the most important thing is to project your voice, talk more measuredly, and be energetic.

10:45 Terry uses the example of going to the theatre. The actors on stage are not speaking in their normal voice, as they need to understood by those in the far reaches of the theatre.

11:25 Terry offers his second point: the need to involve the audience. Terry likes to say something about the people he knows in the audience. He finds that asking questions is also effective. David recommends writing down people's names so he can refer to people by name.

14:10 Terry's third point: Read the room. Pick up on the communication you're getting back from different parts of the room. If you see people looking restless, perhaps you're not reaching them.

15:20 Terry has four more technical things you can do to increase engagement. The first is your voice: you can speak faster or slower, louder or softer. The second is eye contact: the audience won't believe you if you're looking elsewhere. Terry discourages the machine-gun technique of turning your head from left to right, back and forth, in order to make eye contact. David's tip on eye contact: stare at their forehead. They won't be able to tell that you're not looking them in the eyes.

20:30 As for gestures, Terry believes that hand talkers should not try to stifle what comes naturally. David thinks speakers need their hands to project themselves effectively. When David finds something very important, he will reach out and touch it on the screen. The last technical aspect from Terry is movement. A truly great speaker can get away from the podium and walk around. He recommends getting away from the podium if possible. David thinks a handy tool is the slide advancer.

27:00 Terry adds a point about the Q&A: when someone asks a question not relating to the presentation, respect the audience by telling the questioner that you'll answer it afterwards. With regard to the Q&A, the question may belong to the questioner, but the answer belongs to the audience. As you answer the question, make eye contact with the questioner, but move along to make contact with the entire audience. The Q&A is the last thing the audience will remember. David thinks that presenters anchored down by a lecturne can move away from it doing the Q&A and closer to the audience.

29:45 David ends by saying that this business is where presentations cannot be avoided. He started his career feeling uneasy before presentations, and now he's at a point where he enjoys them.

33:20 Terry introduces Chris Clarke's commentary this week.

35:38 Inside PRoper English: better/best, faster/fastest, older/oldest.

37:20 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David discuss the art of presentations. Also, they welcome audio comments from Mitch Joel and Michael O'Connor Clarke. Chris Clarke returns with a contribution this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:29 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:15 Terry and David talk about why this is the second take of Inside PR #42. 

02:19 David introduces Terry's novel, The Best Laid Plans. Terry explains that listeners of Inside PR will be glad to know that he is podcasting the book, or turning it into an audiobook if you will. You can find the podcast blog at www.terryfallis.com or on iTunes.

05:37 Terry talks about the upcoming Third Tuesday gathering in Toronto. He mentions that Paull Young will be making an appearance and Mark Evans will be the guest speaker.

07:30 David introduces a comment from Michael O'Connor Clarke.

10:40 Terry talks about a comment Bryan Person left on the blogpage about Inside PRoper English.

12:11 David introduces a comment from Mitch Joel on presentation skills.

14:30 Terry thanks Mitch for his comment because it leads into this week's topic of discussion: presentation skills.

15:00 Terry starts off this week's topic of conversation on presentation skills. In tribute to Mitch, this week Terry and David will talk about six preparation for presentations tips.

15:55 Terry offers his first tip: know your audience. He thinks too many presenters neglect the audience and either talks above or below their level of knowledge of the presentation material.

17:07 Terry says to build your presentation around your key messages. He thinks the wrong way to develop a presentation is to do it chronologically. Terry likes to talk about the key messages at the beginning and bring the audience back to them at the end.  David adds that presenters should know what they want to accomplish, perhaps that they came off as intelligent and articulate.

19:33 Terry says: Slides are there to support you, not supplant you. One of the principal characteristics of bad presentations is bad slides. Some presenters will read the slides, which makes for a terrible presentation. David says that some people use the slide as the script, the leave-behind, and presentation support. He says that it can't possibly be all three.

23:30 Terry adds that presenters shouldn't break eye contact with the audience for an extended period of time. Turning one's back to the audience is a no-no.

24:15 Terry thinks it's best to use illustrative examples to bring the presentation to life and put a human face on it. David thinks that using examples that the audience can relate to will make the information stick with the audience.

26:44 Prepare for the question and answer period. Few presentations come without questions afterwards, so try to anticipate what questions the audience may ask and prepare potential answers. David says to always save time for the Q&A budgeted into the presentation time.

29:05 Terry's final point: anxiety is your friend. If you find yourself going into a presentation totally relaxed, you probably won't be as engaging as if you were somewhat excited. David has found that over his many years in PR, he has gone from arriving at his presentation not wanting to do it to arriving at his presentation wanting to do a great job.

30:51 Terry sums up his six points of presentations. David adds one more tip for presentations: he tries to anticipate what his competition might present in a new business presentation and out-do the competition.

33:20 David introduces Chris Clarke's commentary this week.

36:27 Inside PRoper English: at this point in time.

37:38 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about the new business pitch. Also, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

03:15 Terry introduces a comment from Colin McKay on the topic of government relations.

04:51 A listener in a journalism program named Eliza is searching for a PR professional to be interviewed.

05:48 Terry introduces this week's main topic for discussion: the new business presentation.

07:15 David starts by naming his four key objectives when going into a new business presentation: demonstrate creativity, show knowledge, deliver the information passionately, and try to make the team and client fit.

08:10 Terry says that he usually brings the whole team into a new business presentation. He seldom brings in the junior people, but he will usually bring the mid-to-senior level people to the presentation. When David worked on the client side, he only wanted to see the people who worked on the account at the new business presentation.

10:30 David doesn't see any reason to bring the president of the firm to the new business pitch if they won't be involved in the account. Terry, as a president himself, feels it's important to be there, as he's usually involved in the creation of the program. He makes it clear if he won't be involved day-to-day, and advises that the entire team make their roles clear to the potential client.

13:45 Terry dispels the myth that the evaluation begins once the first slide goes up. From the moment you walk in the door to the moment you walk out, your team is being evaluated.

17:30 Terry thinks it's important to go over some strategies with the client that you considered but rejected instead of simply going over the ideas you selected. David thinks it shows that you possess a knowledge of the business. He thinks that the best way to show knowledge is to ask the right questions because you should never try to sound more knowledgeable than the client.

21:15 David talks about presenting with passion. He thinks it's important to always show your passionate about a project, even if it's something less than exciting. Terry warns not to build up a clients expectations, though.

25:00 David wraps up by re-emphasizing creativity, knowledge, passion, and fit.

26:55 Inside PRoper English for the week: discrete and discreet

28:45 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Michael O'Connor Clarke sits in for Terry, who is on a cruise. He and David discuss the coming year in public relations and what lies ahead for social media. They welcome an audio contribution from Terry, as well as a comment from Joe Thornley. Finally, they play Chris Clarke's commentary for the week.

Show Notes

00:31 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:45 David explains Terry's absence and introduces Michael O'Connor Clarke, VP of Thornley Fallis. Michael spends some time introducing himself to the Inside PR listenership.

04:20 David and Michael launch into the New Year's show. They take a look back on 2006 and a look ahead for 2007.

05:21 David talks about the adoption of social media among PR practitioners and thinks we're still ahead of the game as we enter 2007. Michael talks about the companies taking leadership in the social media space.

07:35 David talks about the opportunities available in the social media space. He wonders if there's a way to monetize social media, to which Michael responds that there is money to be made, but it's going to be made the same way PR practitioners have always made their money: through the councel we provide our clients.

09:44 David brings up Crayon as an example of monetizing social media. He thinks that 2007 is going to be a big year of social media. Michael believes that firms will continue to be contacted by companies who already have agency representation in search of social media expertise because not everyone understands the space yet. He also anticipates more character blogs, fake blogs, and other programs that lack transparency.

15:25 Michael brings up an ongoing bet he knows of between a New York Times editor and Dave Winer: by 2007, which will be more relevant to Google searches, the New York Times or the blogosphere?

19:10 David brings up the topic of who he plans to hire in 2007. What are they reading? How web-savvy are they? During interviews, Michael is always interested in finding out what people read. One answer he found particularly interesting was "Google News", to the question "Where do you get your news?"

21:25 David thinks it's important that PR practitioners have interests outside of PR. He enjoys hearing about people's interests during interviews because every piece of their personal makeup has something to do with their ability to work in communications.

23:55 David introduces Joe Thornley's audio comment on government relations.

25:33 Terry contributes a few thoughts this week. He talks about his cruise, responds to Joe Thornley's comment about government relations, congratulates Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson on their 200th episode of For Immediate Release: The Hobson and Holtz Report, and discusses what he believes to be an outstanding example of presentation skills in the movie An Inconvenient Truth. In true Terry fashion, he has a few stories to tell along the way, and hopes to be back next week for Inside PR #41.

41:10 David introduces Chris Clarke's commentary for the week.

44:15 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

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This week, Terry and David lament IPR #38, a low-energy snoozecast, and pledge to pick it up here in #39.  Terry and Dave talk about government relations as a sub-discipline of PR.  Chris Clarke is enjoying a holiday break this week in his hometown of Timmins, Ontario but will return with his regulary commentary in IPR #40 or #41.  Terry closes the show with this week's segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30  David opens the show and educates Terry on which countries observe "boxing Day."  He invites listener feedback through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

02:08  Terry and David discuss how slow IPR #38 seemed.

03:25  Terry notes that there were no formal comments this week although David reports on a Sype chat he had with Bryan Person of the New Comm Road podcast.

04:08  Terry reports on the lunch David and he had with our northern-most listener Francis Wooby from Iqualiut, Nunavut.

07:30  Terry notes that he will be away for a week but hopes not to miss a show by pre-recording IPR #40.

09:12  Terry introduces the major topic of discussion this week, government relations and how it fits into public relations.

11:00  Terry takes issue with term "lobbying" and then talks about the "old school" and the "new school" of government relations.

13:38  David talks about how Fleishman Hillard is set up to handle government relations and government communications.  Terry agrees and notes how Thornley Fallis approaches this issue.

17:05  Terry and David talk about how separate and distinct GR and in some cases IR are within PR.

20:20  Terry and Dave discuss how important it is for organizations to build informed and constructive relationships with government when there are no burning issues on the agenda. 

23:57  Terry and Dave examine the need to build relationships with the unelected civil servants and not just with the Minister or other elected politicians.

27:22  Terry invites listener feedback on the GR discussion.

28:03  Terry presents Inside PRoper English for this week:  "unique"

29:58  Terry closes out the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David host Inside PR's 12 Days of Christmas. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Francis Wooby.

They play Chris Clarke's commentary for the week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:45 Francis Wooby drops in with an audio comment for Lauren Oostveen and her question about freelance consulting.

05:15 Another comment comes in from Paula DeSantis from Lisbon about social media and PR. She asks what percentage of work Terry and David are doing in social media. While neither are billing a lot, awareness among clients of social media is growing. Terry says that he is approaching a large number of clients about social media. Paula also asks which clients are using social media, to which Terry replies that his firm's innovative clients are using social media. Finally, she asks how much money has been invested in social media, to which Terry replies not a lot of money, but mostly time.

13:30 David and Terry go off on a tangeant about how the time they have invested in social media has affected them as PR professionals.

18:28 Terry mentions that it's unclear if he will be back for the next episode of Inside PR, as he will be on a cruise.

19:45 David starts this week's main topic: Inside PR's 12 Days of Christmas. On the first day of Christmas my client gave to me...A 50% budget increase.

21:00 On the second day of Christmas an international PR association gave to me...2 international PR awards.

23:45 On the third day of Christmas a newspaper reporter gave to me...3 front-page stories above the fold.

26:10 On the fourth day of Christmas a competitor gave to me...four conflict clients. Terry explains what a conflict client.

27:50 On the fifth day of Christmas a procurement officer gave to me...five blended rates.

29:00 On the sixth day of Christmas a blogger gave to me...six glowing blog posts.

32:00 On the seventh day of Christmas a podcaster gave to me...seven minutes of airtime.

33:10 On the eighth day of Christmas a direct report gave to me...eight burried leads.

34:03 On the ninth day of Christmas my boss gave to me...nine dogs to pitch.

35:30 On the tenth day of Christmas an ad agency gave to me...10% of the budget we actually needed to do that project.

37:15 On the eleventh day of Christmas a politician gave to me...eleven examples I can use for media training.

38:05 On the twelth day of Christmas a client prospect gave to me...twelve year-long accounts.

40:38 Terry introduces Chris Clarke's commentary for the week.

42:35 Inside PRoper English for the week: affect vs. effect

45:10 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the questions that clients should ask before choosing an agency. Also, they welcome an audio comment from Lauren Oostveen. They play Chris Clarke's commentary for the week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:27 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:45 David talks about the PR Network he started on Feedburner. Also, Terry talks about the service that For Immediate Release have been using to monitor their number of listeners called Ripple.

05:09 Terry brings up this week's only comment from Lauren Oostveen. Her question is about measurement and she sends along a link to Consultant Journal. He and David don't have any experience in freelance consulting so instead offer up the question to any listeners with experience as freelancers.

10:50 David talks about being interviewed by a student at Yale University.

12:30 David kicks off this week's topic. He and Terry are going to talk about the questions a client should ask before hiring a PR agency.

14:35 David thinks that an important question is who is on the account team, and who is the day-to-day contact at the agency? Terry says that agencies are often guilty of the bait-and-switch, where the president does the pitch and more junior people handle the account.

18:04 David asks the next question, where do I rank on budget? You want to find out how important your account is to the firm. At some agencies, a million-dollar budget means being the biggest account, whereas at other agencies it can be a lot lower on the food chain.

24:30 David and Terry talk about investing in current client relationships vs. investing in new business.

27:11 David asks another question: do you have a lot of turnover at your agency?

 

30:14 David asks two more question for discussion: do you have billing ethics policies? or more broadly, do you have a code of professional conduct for the staff? Terry talks about retainers and out-of-pocket costs.

34:10 David introduces Chris Clarke's commentary for the week.

35:26 Inside PRoper English for the week: infer and imply

37:50 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David host the call-in show. They welcome audio comments from Gary Schlee, Andrew Findlater, Dan York, Francis Wooby, and Tyler Leisher. Terry also finds time to do his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:24 David and Terry make reference to the fact that they will be welcoming a number of audio comments this week. Terry notes that he is exhausted because of a busy hockey schedule of late.

02:43 Terry talks about the Canadian Institute's New Media for Communications conference, which took place November 28th and 29th.  David and Terry talk about their sessions at the conference.

06:30 David introduces the first called/comment from Gary Schlee, the Co-ordinator of the Corporate Communications and Public Relations program at Centennial College in Toronto makes an important point about effectively managing internal communications during a crisis. 

07:50 Terry says that he and David were remiss to have neglected discussing internal communications when talking about crisis communications on Inside PR #33.

09:10 David thinks that employees are far more savvy than what employers give them credit for. David adds that writing is the most important skill for PR practitioners.

12:10 The next call comes from Francis Wooby from Iqaluit, who makes a very good point in his comment about the important role of �listening� in the PR professional�s arsenal of skills. 

13:40 Terry agrees with Francis that listening skills are crucial to the makeup of a good PR practitioner. David echoes Terry's view and emphasizes active listening, showing an interest, understanding, trying to clarify what they're saying, etc. He adds that PR practitioners should be able to take the time to reflect upon a question and get back to people with sound advice, as opposed to reflex answers that can turn out to be unsound.

18:22 Dan York calls in with a number of items to discuss. Among them: Dan enjoys the show, enjoys the Canadian-isms on the show, recommends making the Inside PR logo more readily available, and has a recommendation for Inside PRoper English.

20:50 David and Terry share their thoughts on Dan's comments.

24:40 Tyler Leishman, a college student, calls in asking for advice on PR education. David thinks that MBA's are cool, but he can't recommend doing one over getting a PR education. Terry thinks that getting an MBA is important simply because it gives PR practitioners a better understanding of business, finance, marketing, and everything else involved in running a business. Terry and David have a lengthy discussion about the uses of business knowledge in public relations.

36:45 Andrew Findlater calls in with a short message on message training.

39:30 Terry thanks Andrew for his comment, and congratulates him and National PR on a recent national award. He adds that what Andrew meant to say was that two Visa member-bank employees were discussing interest rates, as it is the banks who set the rates, not Visa.

41:20 Terry talks about a clip he often uses in media training. David talks about his experience with spokesperson training. 

48:53 Inside PRoper English for the week: that vs. who

49:50 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about the PR stunt. They welcome comments from Julia Stein and Sallie Goetsch. They play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:27 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:17 Terry mentions the podcast he recorded with Shel Holtz.

04:30 David talks about the Canadian Institute's New Media for Communications conference, which is taking place November 28th and 29th. Terry and David will both be speaking at the event.

06:30 David introduces and Terry reads a comment on the blog from Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with sketch).

09:30 David introduces a listener comment from Julia Stein, a colleague of David's from Fleishman Hillard. She asks two questions: one about writing, and the other about leadership.

12:10 Terry recommends not only writing a lot but also reading a lot to improve writing skills. David tells a story about his own writing.

15:15 David says that leadership is parts maturity, confidence, and experience.

17:20 Terry mentions that you can learn just as much from people who you don't see eye-to-eye with than those you consider mentors.

19:20 Terry tells a story about leadership from his time in university.

20:00 This week's major topic for discussion: the role of stunts in PR. Terry thinks that stunts play a smaller role than most people assume in PR, and that they should be used as a tactic, not a strategy. Terry talks about a stunt he and David worked on many years ago.

22:40 David talks about the stunt as a means for a quick hit.

25:25 Terry points out that the public view is that the stunt is all there is to PR. He notes that the stunt is ususally what gets the most attention from the media, which makes the public view it as the only part of a campaign instead of one aspect of a campaign.

27:06 David advises to use stunts wisely. He also points out that award-winning campaigns often revolve around stunts, which he considers unfortunate.

29:13 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

34:20 Inside PRoper English for the week: tricky singular forms

36:00 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about what skills transfer best from another sector into PR. They play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Also, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English. Finally, Terry and David play a skit from Luke Armour.

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:17 Terry starts off by talking about the Shel Holtz/Toronto Third Tuesday event.

03:10 David talks about the Canadian Institute's New Media for Communications conference, happening on November 28th and 29th. Terry and David will both be speaking at the event, along with a slew of other Canadian social medialites.

05:58 David brings up the ads running on a number of Canadian PR blogs from Canada News Wire, including his own.

08:48 Terry introduces a listener comment from Scott McDonald about negative blog comments. David thinks that negative comments are better expressed on your blog than out in the open. He adds that sometimes blogs aren't the right answer. Terry agrees with David and says that negative comments are easy to respond to on a blog.

15:20 Terry brings up this week's topic: the skills that transfer into a career in PR. David says that the risk of hiring someone from another discipline into PR are high. He advises that those considering such a change understand the PR industry before attempting to make the switch.

18:30 David thinks the core skills of PR are, first and foremost, writing, then strategic thinking, creativity, multitasking, and the ability to work under pressure. Terry adds that there are not as many good writers as people claim to be. He says that in PR writing is usually not taught, but known. One skill that Terry adds is important is common sense.

21:25 Terry thinks that the ability to speak and have a presence is important.

22:23 David used to think that the best PR people were the total package, but now comes to believe that there are 3 clearly defined roles: practitioners, managers, and leaders.

24:00 Terry's final trait is the ability to connect with other people.

27:11 David wraps it up: the ability to write, the ability to think, and the ability to connect with people.

27:45 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

30:00 Inside PRoper English for the week: that and which.

32:40 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

33:40 Luke Armour has graciously sent along the following skit he put together lampooning the PR podcasting community. The Virtual Geek Dinner.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about crisis communications. They welcome an audio comment from Bryan Person. They play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English

Show Notes

00:27 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:17 David starts off with housekeeping. He talks about the music poll and mentions that the no music tally is leading the add music tally.

02:22 Terry talks about the latest Toronto Third Tuesday event with Shel Holtz.

03:52 Terry reads this week's first listener comment from Steven in China.

04:53 Bryan Person drops in with an audio comment this week. Terry and David discuss his comment with reference to the Environics case, crayon and Second Life, and how the blogosphere can unforgiving the blogosphere can be for those who don't play by the rules.

15:30 Terry starts this week's talks of crisis communications. Terry says that every good organization should have a crisis communications plan.

17:45 David thinks it's important to differentiate between a crisis communications plan and a crisis plan.

19:25 Terry thinks it's possible for an organization to come out of a crisis stronger and more respected for their ability to handle it.

23:30 Terry adds that owning the crisis is key. Organizations should not own crisis that aren't theirs to own. He says that moving quickly or at least looking like you're moving quickly is extremely important.

30:11 David adds that the media will get their information one way or another. The media can get the spokesperson to speculate at times, and if not they are capable of finding a third party who can speculate for them.

29:48 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

32:50 Inside PRoper English for the week: led and lead.

34:43 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about PR agencies activity within the blogosphere, namely Environics. They welcome audio comments from Maggie Fox and Luke Armour. They also play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:17 Terry starts off with a little housekeeping. David and Terry talk about Michael O'Connor Clarke joining Thornley Fallis.

03:10 David talks about the redesign of Inside PR's blog page.

04:58 David brings up the possibility of having music on the show. He and Terry have a short discussion and invite listeners to check out the blog page and vote on the poll.

06:01 Michael Seaton has launched The Client Side Podcast.

07:30 Terry talks about Richard Millington, who is searching for his replacement at work through his blog.

09:26 David talks about the latest Geek Dinner, hosted by Mitch Joel in Toronto.

10:57 Listener comments begins with Michelle Sullivan, who comments on the show where Terry and David talked about RFPs, and sends along an article about agencies charging potential clients for RFPs.

18:53 David introduces a comment from Maggie Fox from the Social Media Group. She is referring to this article in the Toronto Star.

22:30 The discussion on Maggie's comment has spilled over to David's blog. David thought that, for the most part, Environics wasn't making a huge effort to become a part of the conversation. He wonders if a person can be an expert on blogging without having a blog of their own.

27:11 Terry thinks that if a PR firm is to be quoted in the newspaper about blogging, bloggers will have their say about it.

30:11 David thinks that bloggers are fairly sensitive to claims being made about their areas of expertise. He says that it truly is an extension of a person's thoughts. David wants to point out that he changed his post to reflect the comments from Bruce McLellan from Environics.

32:36 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

35:19 Luke Armour drops in with an audio comment.

38:18 Inside PRoper English for the week: presently.

40:35 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion about internal communications. They welcome an audio comment from Kansas City Chris as well as a host of other written comments. They also play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English

Show Notes

00:27 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:41 Terry kicks off listener comments with Owen Lystrup. He talks about music on Inside PR, and he and David discuss how they might use music in the future.

05:42 David introduces nn audio comment from Chris from Kansas City, talking about the RFP process from the client perspective.

09:06 Terry reads Ian Ketcheson's comment on the Garth Turner matter.

10:51 Francis Wooby weighs in on the Garth Turner matter as well.

12:11 Terry kicks off this week's topic, internal communications. He thinks that internal communications is often relegated to HR, and is rarely about engagement.

14:16 David believes that some companies do it well, but he thinks that some companies might divide internal and external communications into different camps, which could cause some confusion within an organization.

17:23 Terry thinks that quick growth within an organization can be a factor with internal communications. Going from a handful of employees to hundreds in a short period of time can mean communicating to many with methods intended for communicating with few.

19:24 David thinks there's a vast difference between communicating with employees and engaging with employees.

21:00 Terry concludes that internal and external communications should be interwoven.

22:00 David challenges anyone out there to find a communications plan that deals first with internal communications and external communications second.

25:15 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

28:18 Inside PRoper English for the week: complement and compliment.

30:20 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David have a discussion on the three most dreaded letters in the PR industry: RFP. They have a short chat about the Edelman/Wal-Mart case, and Terry talks about he and Chris' time at Fanshawe College, about which they welcome a comment from Megan Zinn. They also play Chris Clarke's comment for this week. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English."   

Show Notes

00:27 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

02:10 Terry talks about a comment to the show blog from Megan Zinn. Part of her comment relates to Terry and Chris' vist to Fanshawe College. Here is the link to the class blog.

03:58 David brings up Garth Turner, who has been painted as an MP fired for blogging. Terry contends that he was not fired for blogging, but for what he said on his blog, which if said elsewhere, in an interview or op-ed or elsewhere, would have got him fired anyway.

08:59 David mentions that he and Terry had dinner with Joseph Jaffe and C.C. Chapman in Toronto last Thursday night. They talk about their new company, called crayon.

13:10 David brings up the Edelman/Wal-Mart situation. He feels that Edelman's spokesbloggers could have said something, even if it was nothing more than letting interested parties know that they're looking into the situation. David also says that he wonders why a policy wasn't put in place after their last mistake. Terry talks about how big Edelman is and how that relates to the problem.

21:17 Terry brings up this week's major topic for discussion: the request for proposal, or RFP. Terry doesn't believe that the RFP regularly accomplishes the goal the client has in mind: to find the best agency for the job.

22:50 David can understand why clients use RFP's. He says that the best agency is probably the busiest, and that the busiest agency might be too busy to submit a proposal. He talks about the one time he put out an RFP during his time on the client side of things, which turned out to not be an RFP at all.

26:28 Terry talks about how a written proposal cannot convey intangibles, like chemistry. He says that it's a ton of work for the agency, and offers an example of how one RFP he worked on did not win the business,  because it turned that the RFP was just a formality.

30:24 David and Terry offer advice to clients on how to put out RFP's to make life easier for both clients and agencies alike. Terry invites any comments from listeners about RFP's.

32:50 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

36:40 Inside PRoper English for the week: enervate.

37:56 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, David returns from illness to co-host the show with Terry. They have a discussion on the PR person as spokesperson for the client. Also, they feature an audio comment from Francis Wooby. They also play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English."   

Show Notes

00:33 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:13 Terry mentions that there were no comments from last week's solo-show sans David.

01:52 David brings up tonight's Toronto Third Tuesday event, where the crowd welcomes Matthew Ingram, technology reporter/blogger from the Globe and Mail. Also, Terry explains his position on the journalist as blogger.

05:18 Terry makes another Third Tuesday Toronto announcement: Shel Holtz will be joining us in November. More information to come - stay tuned.

05:58 David talks about the new marketing agency, spearheaded by Joseph Jaffe. He announces it on his podcast this week.

09:11 Terry mentions that he and Chris Clarke visited Fanshawe College on Monday in London, Ontario.

09:44 David mentions that Joseph Jaffe and C.C. Chapman will be in Toronto this week.

11:02 David starts this week's chat on the agency representative as spokesperson for a client.

12:23 Terry says that he is not a supporter of the agency speaking on behalf of a client.

15:11 David thinks that under certain circumstances it's admissable, but he has his own opinions on how to represent oneself as the spokesperson.

18:30 David brings out the Canadian Public Relations Society code of ethics. Terry calls for full disclosure always.

20:49 Terry brings up Edelman and Wal-Mart's blogger relations campaign from this past year. He also says that clients should be their own spokespeople, unless as a last resort. This brings them to talk about the latest Edelman/Wal-Mart issue.

26:32 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

29:25 Inside PRoper English for the week, with a little help from Francis Wooby: 360 degrees vs. 180 degrees and the word decimate.

34:21 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry is flying solo. He adds "government" and "not-for-profit" to the "agency vs. client side" debate after a comment from Colin McKay. He welcomes an audio comment from Bryan Person, and comments from Owen Lystrup, Gary Schlee and Omar Ha-Redeye. Also, he plays this week's contribution from Chris Clarke. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English".

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.


01:39 Terry welcomes the listeners from Radio Talent Zoo.

03:12 Terry introduces an audio comment from Bryan Person.

06:58 Terry talks about a comment from Owen Lystrup.

08:29 Terry welcomes a comment from Gary Schlee of Centennial College's Corporate Communications and Public Relations program.

09:46 Omar Ha-Redeye from Centennial College comments on the "agency vs. client side" debate.

10:50 Terry starts this week's topic by reading Colin McKay's comment on last week's show. Colin talks about "government" and "not-for-profit" areas of PR in the "agency vs. client side" debate. On his blog, he makes the case for working on the government side of PR. Terry spends a few minutes talking about the advantages of working for government.

17:44 Terry spends some time talking about the not-for-profit sector of PR.

21:02 Terry wraps up the discussion and advises for young PR professionals to do their research and examine each sector individually.

21:45 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

25:54 Inside PRoper English for the week:

26:25 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, he welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David discuss agency vs. client side as an entry point into public relations. They welcome an audio comment from Ed Lee. Also, they play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English"  with the help of Andrew Findlater.

Show Notes

00:33 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:30 Terry talks about his time at the Podcast and Portable Media Expo in Ontario, California.

06:20 David brings up last week's Third Tuesday gathering in Toronto and Ottawa.

09:20 David talks about his presentation at Summers Direct Communications Forum in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. He also mentions that he will be presenting at the Canadian Institute's "Internal & External Communications for Government" and will also spend time talking about the MRP system.

11:35 Terry mentions that this week he will be at the Strategy Magazine Media in Canada forum.

13:00 Ed Lee drops in with an audio comment regarding the agency vs. client side debate.

14:15 Terry starts things off by mentioning that he's naturally biased. Terry has never worked on the client side of public relations, even though he intended to when he first got into the business.

16:33 David talks about the business of PR here in Canada. He thinks that the size of the team on the agency side in Canada is a big difference compared to the client side. He also mentions that there's nothing wrong with working for a few years at an agency, because agencies want agency people.

19:05 Terry thinks that, in general, working on the client side will mean fighting for resources against a larger number of employees. People you work with will not always embrace public relations.

20:30 David appreciates working with people who "get" PR, especially after working on the client side.

22:29 Terry dispells another myth: in-house PR might pay more at the start, but a few years later the agency person will likely surpass the agency person. There are generally more opportunities for advancement in agencies than on the client side.

26:37 David talks about his time working on the client side at Molson's.

28:29 Terry talks about agencies being more relaxed in atmosphere, and that in-house PR is generally not cushy.

31:48 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

34:28 Inside PRoper English for the week, with the help of Andrew Findlater: "flesh out" and "flush out."

37:20 David talks about someone who he and Terry worked with who mixed and mashed their cliches.

39:22 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their third discussion on the myths of public relations. This week, they continue their series with the myth of the "Golden Rolodex". Also, they play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English."

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:33 Terry mentions that this is the 26th episode, which means that this marks a full 6 months of podcasting.

02:08 David mentions that there are no comments this week. He invites comments positive and negative for play on next week's episode.

02:29 David brings up the many events David and Terry will be attending over the next few weeks. Terry will be in Ontario, California this week  attending the Podcast Expo. He mentions that Inside PR #27 will be done from California from his end.

04:09 David brings up the Third Tuesday Toronto event, featuring Shel Israel. He also mentions the Third Monday Ottawa event, held this past Monday, which Terry expects to partake in. There are approximately 50 attendees of the Toronto event as of Sunday evening when the show is recorded, and somewhere near 35 for the Ottawa event.

05:33 David mentions that he was in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. He attended the Summers Direct Communications Forum this past Monday. He hopes for comments from the attendees of the event.

06:20 David mentions that he will be doing the Canadian Institute's "Internal & External Communications for Government" event with Joe Thornley in Ottawa.

06:53 Terry will be appearing at the Strategy Magazine Media in Canada Forum on October 3rd, as part of a roundtable discussion on podcasting.

07:46 David starts this week's topic for discussion on the myth of the "golden rolodex."

08:20 Terry mentions that he and David have had the question posed to them, "How are your media contacts?" too often from clients. Terry says that a personal relationship with a media contact does not guarantee that things will go the client's way. What it will do is help inform the appropriate positioning of a story.

11:06 David says that a relationship will only take you so far. Some reporters will do favours, but for the most part, that's not how you get your story into the news. What the client really means by the aformentioned question is "How is your influence over media?"

13:29 One way to get a bad relationship with a reporter is to build a good one and start asking for favours.

15:23 David mentions that not everyone has total control over what gets into the news.

16:40 Terry talks about how he believes that agencies can build credibility with reporters by only pitching them good, solid stories.

17:29 David talks about dealing with journalists who write things that do not please the client.

21:18 Terry talks about an analogous case in the world of government relations. The moral of the story is to not rely on contacts.  It's not who you know but what you know.

27:10
David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

28:53 Inside PRoper English for the week: "between" and "among."

30:31 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their second discussion on the myths of public relations. This week, they continue their series with the myth of the "Agency Billing Machine". Also, they feature an audio comment from Francis Wooby. They also play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English."   

Show Notes

00:33 David introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:13 Terry mentions that this is the 25th episode, and thanks listeners for sticking with them this long.

01:38 Terry introduces an audio comment from Francis Wooby on students and PR programs in Canada.

04:40 David reads an audio comment from Leona Hobbs about billable hours.

05:45 Terry reads Luke Armour's comment on young PR professionals.

06:30 Listener comments leads to a discussion on getting things done and billable hours. Terry believes in getting the billable work out of the way early in the day (to the extent that's possible), and David finds agency life a little less predictable.

09:14 David leads off this week's myth-busting discussion on agencies as billing machines.

12:21 Terry makes the case for value ahead of nickel-and-diming. He thinks it's important to make a client aware of what they're being billed for and what they're not.

13:16  David says that clients will be happy to pay for services they find valuable.

16:13 Terry finds that agencies tend to work harder trying to win business than keep business.

19:22 David believes that it's important to track the time people put in at an agency honestly regardless of how many hours are billed.

21:41
Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

26:10 Inside PRoper English for the week: "anxious" versus "eager."

27:28 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David hold their first of many discussions on the myths of public relations. This week, they talk about the myth of the "PR sweatshop". Also, they play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke and Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English."   

Show Notes

00:33 Terry introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:43 Terry reminds listeners that he recently posted a special edition of Inside PR with Esther Buchsbaum, co-founder of Communications Meca and the first ever Canadian chair of the Counselors Academy annual spring conference. Interested listeners can find the episode here on the Inside PR blog page.

02:20 Terry talks about a comment from Jamey Sheils on Inside PR #21.

03:30 David talks about a comment from Owen Lystrup.

06:21 David introduces a chat about the myths of the public relations. This week's topic is the myth surrounding the "PR agency sweatshop".

07:41 Terry makes it clear that there are fewer agency "sweatshops" than most believe.

10:28 David believes the "PR sweatshop" depends on the person's perspective. He talks about his time years ago working long hours, but in his view, not in a sweatshop.

13:00 Terry doesn't see the value of working new employees to the point of burnout. He defines it as a person working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for months on end.  He suggests that it's in the longer term interests of the agency and the employees for a second consultant to be hired so the 10 hours can split between them.

14:40 David thinks everyone should do their homework and know what they're getting into before they join an agency.

18:33 David says that the long hours he worked early in his career has led to him being more efficient.

19:20 Terry mentions that there are far fewer "PR sweatshops" than most would think, but David says that there are a few "sweatshops" where it's an owner and a group of interns. Terry agrees but doesn't think that's the way to build an agency, although these agencies do exist.

21:55 Terry mentions that he's had a mere two all-nighters in his 18 years as a consultant.

22:20 David welcomes any stories relating to "PR sweatshops".

23:11
Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

26:09 Inside PRoper English for the week: the use of the word "none."

27:39 David closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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In this special edition of Inside PR, Terry chats with Esther Buchsbaum, the co-founder of Communications MECA and the chair for the Counselors Academy's Spring 2007 Conference to be held in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.

00:50 Terry welcomes Esther, who joins him from Montreal, Quebec.

01:40 Esther talks about her background in communications.

03:16 Esther talks about how she got involved with the Counselors Academy, how she is able to put together a conference in Mexico from Montreal, and some of the people she asked to help her organize it.

09:03 Terry asks Esther what the the Counselors Academy has to offer compared to the IABC or the CPRS.  Esther explains. 

13:35 Esther describes how one can join the Counselors Academy.

14:44 Esther talks about the MRP system.

16:19 Terry brings up social media, and Esther talks about its place within the Counselors Academy conference.

18:50 Terry thanks Esther for her time, and invites listener feedback to the comment line (206-600-4741), to insideprcomments@gmail.com, or on the show blog.

Background on Esther Buchsbaum

Esther Buchsbaum is the co-founder of Communications MECA, an independently-owned and operated public relations agency with its headquarters in Montreal, Quebec and an offices in Toronto, Ontario.

A communications professional for over 25 years, Esther has longstanding experience providing strategic counsel to clients in the consumer, corporate, social service and heath care sectors. She is, and has been responsible for the planning, managing and supervision of public relations activities for such clients as Burger King, Avon, the OLCO Petroleum Group, Ben & Jerry's, Big Brothers Big Sisters, Hilton Hotels, the Caribbean Tourism Organization, Ericsson Communications, Samsung and Brother International to name but a few.

She is an accredited member of the Canadian Public Relations Society and holds the APR designation that is recognized world-wide. She is the first-ever Canadian to chair the Counselors Academy, to be held in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico in Spring 2007.
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This week on InsidePR, Terry and David discuss student internships and talk about the differences between big and small agencies. They welcome audio comments from Patricia Parsons, a professor of public relations at Mount St. Vincent's University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and from Michael Seaton from The Client Side. Also, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English". Finally, they play this week's contribution from Chris Clarke.

Show Notes

00:28 David is glad to be back and introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:48 Terry talks about an interview he did with Canadian Podcast Buffet with Bob Goyetche and Mark Blevis. The episode can be found here.

03:32 David talks about a new post on KD Paine's blog about the top 10 PR firms in the world and their presence in the blogosphere.

05:28 David introduces the first comment from Michael Seaton from The Client Side. David thinks Michael did a great job, and thanks him for stepping in during his absence.

07:45 Terry talks about how he only met Michael face-to-face after recording last week's episode together. They got together for a geek dinner organized by Micheal and Mitch Joel.

08:28 David brings up the Third Tuesday and Third Monday meetups happening at the end of September for Toronto and Ottawa communicators. Shel Israel will be speaking at both inaugural events. You can find the signup link for Toronto here and the Ottawa link here.

10:55 Terry introduces a comment from Patricia Parsons, a professor of public relations from Mount St. Vincent's University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

15:15 David brings up this week's topic: small agency vs. big agency, for students considering a placement.

16:08 Terry mentions the fact that both he and Terry have worked at both big and small agencies in Canada. He doesn't intend to provide definite conclusions on the debate. He recalls that a decade ago the big agencies had the big clients, which is no longer a rule of the agency world. According to Terry, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. He makes the case that at larger agencies there might not be the variety of tasks and responsibilites offered at smaller agencies.

19:42 David says that regardless of where you work, there are things that stay the same: you will start at the bottom and you'll learn from the bottom-up. To him, the difference between big and small is simply a game of numbers: there are more opportunities for people in small agencies based on the fact that there are fewer to draw on. But, at larger agenies, there are certainly more opportunities for advancement because there are simply more positions to be filled. Nonetheless, the opportunities go to those who deserve them.

23:40 Terry claims that the only way to get anywhere is to take the opportunities that come your way. Be aggressive, but reasonable. Also, at smaller firms, the junior people get to sit around the table for creative sessions with the senior people, which is an excellent opportunity. That's not to say that it doesn't happen at larger firms, but it is more likely to happen at smaller firms.

26:20 David wraps up the chat and says that there are pros and cons to each size of firm. He says the most important part is about knowing your job and knowing who's on your team. There are great people in terrible agencies and terrible people in great agencies.

29:00 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

32:41 Inside PRoper English for the week: tennet

33:45 From the files of Inside PRoper English: Grammar Girl's Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing.

35:15 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on InsidePR, Terry welcomes guest host Michael Seaton from The Client Side in David's absence. Michael and Terry discuss public relations from the client's perspective. They play audio comments from Michael himself and Francis Wooby, and  David Jones contributes the first-ever Lake-Cast. Finally, Terry does his segment of "Inside PRoper English", and plays this week's contribution from Chris Clarke.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry introduces the show, and invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave a comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:18 With David away, Michael Seaton from The Client Side is guest co-hosting in his place. Michael explains how he became a contributor on Across the Sound.

04:12 Terry talks about the first-ever negative comment to the show.

05:15 Terry plays an audio comment from Francis Wooby, who comments on the ethics meme.

08:24 Terry plays an audio comment from none other than Michael Seaton on the research discussion Terry and David had on IPR #18.

12:40 Michael tells listeners a little more about himself.

15:36 David Jones corresponds from Lake Simcoe, hence the term Lake-Cast.

19:25 Terry and Michael discuss public relations from the client's perspective, and how clients can get the most out of their agency relationships. Michael cites the book "A New Brand World" by Scott Bedbury.

23:00 Terry says the idea of the right fit or proper relationship is the key to a great agency/client relationship. Terry's twin brother, who works in marketing and promotions, calls it "the final 5%". Terry thinks it might be worth more.

28:20 Michael believes you have to understand not only your business but the clients' business as well. Also, it's important to be a thought leader, because you need someone who keeps the client on top of trends.
29:30 Terry adds that it's important to be good listeners and give teh advice the client needs to hear and not the advice the client wants to hear.

33:13 Terry introduces and plays Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

36:12 Inside PRoper English for the week: reticent

37:17 Michael's blog can be found at theclientside.blogspot.com. He and Terry talk about a potential "Client Side" podcast in the works, so be on the lookout for more information on Michael's blog in the next few weeks.

41:05 Terry thanks Michael for stepping in this week. He closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, call us on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, Terry welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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This week on InsidePR, David and Terry discuss astroturfing and ethics in the world of public relations. Also, they talk more "Inside PRoper English", and play another segment from Chris Clarke.

Show Notes

00:28 David introduces the show, and invites listener feedback through
email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave a comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:28 David mentions that he will be away for Inside PR #22, and in his place will sit Michael Seaton from The Client Side.

01:50 David mentions that there were feed problems with Inside PR #20 and apoligizes for any inconvenience this may have caused.

02:20 David brings up Terry's role as co-host of For Immediate Release 165 with Shel Holtz.

04:05 David brings up the topic for discussion this week, astroturfing. He brings up the Anti-Astroturfing campaign started by Trevor Cook and Paull Young.

06:10 David brings up his employer, Fleishman Hillard, and talks about the issues involved at the agency level with regards to astroturfing. David and Terry will deal with three different topics on astroturfing over the course of the episode: its definition, the term mobilization, and the importance of transparency.

07:35 Terry starts by talking about the importance of a clear and easily understood definition of the term "astroturfing". He gets into definitions that can be found on the New PR's Anti-Astroturfing page.

12:24 David moves on to the next issue with astroturfing: mobilization. He thinks the key is whether or not a group of people have a legitimate concern.

16:18 Terry gives an example from the pharmaceutical industry and looks forward to listener feedback on his example.

20:11 David wonders if charities can be guilty of astroturfing and invites listener feedback.

20:58 David moves on to the last matter, transparency. He thinks that if you don't want your company known to be involved with something, you're probably astroturfing.

23:55 David wraps up the conversation and invites listener feedback on the topic of astroturfing. Terry says there is plenty of grey area, and the only way to move things forward is by talking about them.

25:50 Chris Clarke talks about his toughest week of work at Thornley Fallis.

27:30 David and Terry briefly talk about the problems with Dell batteries of late.

28:17 Inside PRoper English for the week: penultimate

29:34 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, call us on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, David and Terry welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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This week on InsidePR, David and Terry discuss networking as an important part of the world of public relations. Also, they play an audio comment from Leesa Barnes, change "PR Words to Banish" to "Inside PRoper English", and play another segment from Chris Clarke.

Please send your comments to us in an email at insideprcomments@gmail.com, call us on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or leave us a comment on the Inside PR show blog.

Show Notes

00:26 David welcomes listeners to this week's show and invites them to make use of the comment line at 206-600-4741.

01:15 David welcomes new listeners from Radio Talent Zoo.

02:45 David warns that he is recording this week's show from his backyard, so beware of the ambiance of the outdoors.

03:45 Terry talks about a comment that Luke Armour recently sent in reference to the segment "PR Words to Banish" and provides some alternative titles, and they chose to change the title of the segment to "Inside PRoper English".

06:00 David and Terry debate whether or not to commission a jingle from Luke Armour for the newly-named segment.

07:30 David welcomes an audio comment from Leesa Barnes, who talks about the survey she co-authored, the Canadian Podcast Listeners Survey.

10:55 David thanks Leesa for her kind words and explains that they are not the first to put listener comments in the podcast, but they might be the first to put listeners comments on the blog page as they come in.

12:30 Terry talks about Leesa's survey in greater detail. He mentions that more women are listening to podcasts than men, and that older generations are listening to podcasts more than the younger generations, among other interesting survey results.

15:50 David waxes poetic on podcasting data for Canadian podcasters.

19:00 Bryan Person of the NewComm Road podcast invites listeners of Inside PR to Podcamp Boston. His comment is available for download on the Inside PR show blog.

20:08 David introduces this week's topic, networking. Terry talks about building relationships, and David recommends to pick up a copy of David Maister's book, The Trusted Advisor. David then picks up on Terry's idea that one should always give attention to junior and senior clients and mentions that those behind the front desk can end up with their name on the door.

26:43 David gives some advice: do favors for people, and do information interviews. We've all needed help and been there before.

30:00 Terry tells a story of how he spent an hour with a young person he helped out years ago and ended up working with her as a client down the road.

31:00 David uses two tools that he find fantastic: one is LinkedIn, and the other is Plaxo.

33:00 Terry says that the objective during networking events is not to sell, but to build relationships.

35:25 This week's segment from Chris Clarke

37:17 Terry and David discuss Chris' segment, and David closes out the chat by highlighting David Maister's book and a podcast called Manager Tools.

39:40 This week's "Inside PRoper English": "...the reason why..." It's either "the reason" or "why", not both.

41:18 Terry invites comments through the comment line (206-600-4741), to the Inside PR show blog, or to insideprcomments@gmail.com. Terry and David also welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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This week on InsidePR, David and Terry discuss research as a tool for public relations, welcome text comments from Leesa Barnes and Owen Lsytrup and an audio comment from Shel Holtz, add another word to the list of "PR Words to Banish", and play another segment from Chris Clarke.

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00:28 Terry opens the show, welcomes listeners new and returning, and invites comments to the comment line at 206-600-4741.

01:50 Terry reads a comment to the blog page from Leesa Barnes. She mentions that she was put on to InsidePR by Michael Seaton from The Client Side.

03:45 David mentions that Owen Lystrup was kind enough to leave a comment on the subject of goals and objectives.

04:55 Shel Holtz leaves an audio comment on the differences between goals and objectives, and strategies and tactics. He uses an excellent World War II analogy to explain their differences that he borrows from Wilma Matthews.

08:50 Terry mentions that For Immediate Release has been nominated for a Podcast Award. He encourages listeners to vote early and often here under the "Business" category. He also says that he looks forward to meeting Shel and Neville at the Podcast Expo in Ontario, California.

09:30 David brings up this week's topic: research

10:00 Terry clarifies that they will discuss public opinion or market research. He then says that PR people don't often know enough about public opinion research to fully understand its uses. Terry says there are three kinds of research: political polling, market research, and public affairs/issues management research.

12:00 Terry mentions a former client, Molson, and talks about some research Molson's PR firm did before Thornley Fallis took over the account.

13:55 David mentions that the "Blind Date" survey had nothing to do with the event it should have been intended to promote for Molson's.

16:30 Terry brings up research work Thornley Fallis did for an organization called "Breakfast for Learning" and how the survey results surprised the PR team at Thornley Fallis. (Disclosure: Terry now sits on the board of BFL.)

20:04 David says that awareness research is important. He finds research is sometimes lacking, and uses examples such as Sony's debut of the Walkman and the age-old example of New Coke to support his views.

24:45 Terry says that there is a balance between instinct and research. He follows that up saying that he hopes PR practitioners can understand the strategic value of research.

26:45 David says that PR people need to understand what research is and what it can and cannot do.

27:37 David introduces Chris Clarke's segment for the week.

30:30 Terry and David thank Chris for his comment.

31:35 Terry adds another word to "PR Words to Banish". This week: utilize.

33:45 David invites comments through the comment line (206-600-4741), to the Inside PR show blog, or to insideprcomments@gmail.com. Terry and David also welcome listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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This week, Terry and David have a lively chat about conflicts of interest in the agency world, talk about Terry's work on the Michael Ignatieff Liberal Party Leadership bid, welcome audio comments from Luke Armour and Paull Young, and Chris Clarke contributes his regular segment.

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Show Notes:

00:30 David introduces the show and welcomes listener comments to the comment line at 206-600-4741

01:30 Terry mentions Paull Young's audio comment that can be found on the show blog. Terry points listeners to the NewPR's Anti-Astroturfing page.

02:00 Terry thanks Luke Armour for his comment. Luke wanted to say that even though he lives in the US, he knows who David was talking about when he mentioned Les Habitants (the Montreal Canadians)

02:45 David brings up Terry's work on Michael Ignatieff's bid for the Liberal Party of Canada leadership race. Terry discovered through this post that Ignatieff is the only candidate with a podcast. Terry says it's incredible that none of the other candidates in the leadership are podcasting, as it's a perfect way to get the word out. David adds that Ken Dryden is running for the Liberal leadership as well, a former Montreal Canadian goaltender.

07:15 David brings up a hazy area of PR for discussion: conflicts of interest in relation to client assignments. Terry tells a story from early in his career at Hill and Knowlton, where his Toronto office had a conflict of interest with an H&K office in Honolulu.

11:00 David adds his perspective as a member of a major PR firm, Fleishman-Hillard. His personal opinion is that clients can ask for whatever they want, but as a general rule should reserve issues of conflict to the firms themselves.

15:20 Terry says that the most important issue with conflicts is disclosure. Thornley Fallis has a code of conduct, part of which deals with conflict of interest. According to Terry, the first thing to do is disclose the conflict of interest to the client. Terry adds that he would not dump a smaller client to add a bigger client because of a conflict of interest.

17:45 David says that chasing dollars is not the way to go. He invites any stories that deal with conflicts of interest through the appropriate channels.

19:50 Terry brings up the conflict agency. He once led a small agency owned by Hill and Knowlton, but operated independently. During his time there, he never received a single referral from Hill and Knowlton. He recommends to conflict agencies not to count on business being passed on from the parent agency.

23:00 Terry says that the bigger the agency, the more conflict of interests arise. He says to be sure to disclose any conflicts to the client. David says that clients will eventually find out if there is a conflict of interest, and Terry adds that the short-term gain is not worth the long-term pain.

24:20 Chris Clarke discusses goals and objectives, as well as titles of PR blogs.

28:10 David discusses goals and objectives. He thinks goals are long-term, whereas objectives are short-term. Terry agrees, and adds that a future show will discuss the difference between strategies and tactics.

29:30 David says that adding "PR" to the title of a blog (or, in this case, podcast) just feels right, although there will eventually be no more titles to choose from. He also mentions that the name "Inside PR", in some ways, comes from Paul Holmes' "The Holmes Report".

33:00 Terry does his segment, "PR Words to Banish". This week's word: moot point.

34:19 David invites comments through the comment line (206-600-4741), to the Inside PR show blog, or to insideprcomments@gmail.com. He also welcomes any listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site, which he visited thanks to Jill Pyle.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about a variety of matters. They discuss the ideal background of a public relations practitioner, the importance of public relations to claim social media as its own, a new service called Weblog Wire, and Mary Ellen Armstrong of Thornley Fallis Communications' MA work being published in an upcoming book. Also, Terry brings back the segment "PR Words to Banish", and Chris Clarke presents his weekly segment as well.

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Show Notes

00:32 Terry opens the show and welcomes first-time listeners and thanks returning listeners for listening to this week's episode. He thanks Mitch Joel from Six Pixels of Separation for filling in last week while he was vacationing in France with his family.

02:08 David invites listener comments to the comment line (206-600-4741), through email (insideprcomments@gmail.com) or to the show blog at insidepr.ca.

03:10 Terry asks readers to visit the show blog to hear audio comments from Owen Lystrup and Mitch Joel

03:45 Terry introduces an audio comment from Colin McKay from Ottawa. This comment was intended for Episode 14 and has appeared on the blog for some time now. Colin says PR is a bit slow to react as an industry, and that more leadership is necessary from PR world's trade publications.

06:00 David and Terry discuss Colin's comment. The two of them agree with Colin's view and and cite examples such as Paul Holmes' The Holmes Report as one who is doing great work on the topic.

11:00 David brings up a PR measurement survey via Katie Paine run by University of Maryland student Debra Berthard-Caplick. Those interested in participating are encouraged to do so.

12:06 Weblog Wire is a wire service that offers press release distribution to bloggers. Terry and David discuss the use and merits of a service that distributes press releases to bloggers.

17:05 Mary Ellen Armstrong of Thornley Fallis Communications has had  her MA dissertation from Cardiff University in Wales published in a book by former BBC correspondent Nicholas Jones titled "Trading Information: Leaks, Lies, and Tradeoffs."

21:05 The final comment comes from Vishnu Mahmud in Jakarta, Indonesia. Vishnu wants to know what kind of people make good PR pros, to which Terry and David work out some answers as their discussion. Terry does not believe that good PR pros are necessarily journalism majors, graduates of a community college PR program, or graduates of MA programs. He thinks many of those skills cannot be taught, such as being able to connect with people and managing relationships.

26:40 David admits to having a journalism degree and says that he has had great success in hiring journalism students into PR, but he says that their success probably had little to do with journalism. He elaborates, saying literate, well-rounded people do well in PR.

37:00 David introduces Chris Clarke's weekly segment, in which he discusses astroturfing as a hot topic in public relations.

40:55 Terry introduces this week's "PR Word to Banish": fulsome

42:40 David wraps up the show and invites comments to the comment line (206-600-4741), through email (insideprcomments@gmail.com) or to the show blog at insidepr.ca.

Music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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This week on Inside PR, David welcomes Mitch Joel from Twist Image and the Six Pixels of Separation podcast as co-host in Terry's absence. Mitch and David talk about a variety of social media matters, with podcasting being central to their topics for discussion. Let us know what you think of Mitch as a guest co-host. Send us a comment through the comment line (206-600-4741), send us an audio comment to insideprcomments@gmail.com or leave a comment here on the show blog.

Show Notes

00:40 David introduces this week's co-host, Mitch Joel

01:07 David introduces Terry's segment

01:45 Terry steps into the confessional and talks about his struggle with the task of delegation

05:20 Terry re-introduces his favorite segment, "PR Words to Banish". This week's word: "comprise"

06:18 Terry bids everyone adieu and vows to return for next week's show

06:42 David invites listener comments to the comment line (206-600-4741), the show blog, or to insideprcomments@gmail.com

07:18 David asks Mitch Joel for an explanation of how he came to be a star in the social media scene

07:46 Mitch confesses that his first gig came in 1989 when he interviewed Tommy Lee of Motley Crue, talks about how he gt involved in the dotcom boom and bust, and how Twist Image was founded

10:31 David asks Mitch to characterize Twist Image

12:06 Mitch confesses that Twist Image is not just seeking out clients, but clients are seeking out Twist Image. Mitch has been working on the Internet since the earliest days of the 90s

13:17 David confesses to being a traditional PR guy, and that his means of finding information is Google

14:55 David talks about transparency in the PR world and how social media is helping bring everyone together

16:12 Mitch says that it's just as important to be a podcaster as it is to understand podcasting from a technical standpoint

18:00 David suggests that the people interested in the space of podcasting should go out and get their hands dirty and do it themselves

18:45 Mitch brings up his very first episode of Six Pixels of Separation, which is an example of someone trying out podcasting for the first time. He mentions that his latest guest was CC Chapman

20:03 David says that podcasters are their own harshest critics, and talks about the artificiality of producing a podcast of the same length on the same day every week

22:12 David brings up the mesh conference in Toronto from this past May

24:00 Mitch talks about the presentation he put together in 7 hours for the Canadian Marketing Association called "Blogs: A Marketers' Secret Weapon", and brings up that he recently started listening to Adam Curry's Daily Source Code

25:00 Mitch says he found the new talk radio, and it's podcasting. He says he wouldn't call himself a podcaster just yet, but that he appreciates the immediacy of the medium of podcasting

27:40 Mitch likes the fact that there is not much gear needed to be a podcaster. When everyone is on a similar playing field, it becomes about quality content rather than production.

30:10 David brings up Chris Clarke. He and Mitch talk about his blog, and Mitch says about Clarke, "He did it, and he got it."

31:30 Chris Clarke's weekly segment

34:20 David introduces and reads Chris Clarke's former classmate Megan Zinn's comment to the show blog

36:15 David closes the show and invites listener comments to the comment line (206-600-4741), the show blog, or to insideprcomments@gmail.com

36:34 David thanks Mitch for co-hosting and invites listeners to check out his podcast.

Intro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.
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From now on, the show will be posted on Tuesday mornings rather than Monday mornings.

 

Also, with Terry absent next week, Mitch Joel from the Six Pixels of Separation podcast will be co-hosting with David.

 

Show Notes

00:27 Terry opens the show and invites listener comments to the comment line (206-600-4741)

 

01:20 Terry brings up housekeeping items: the show will now be posted Monday nights at midnight instead of Sunday nights at midnight

 

02:00 Terry will not be co-hosting next week's episode. In his place, Mitch Joel will join David as co-host. Thanks to Mitch for filling in for Terry.

 

03:00 David introduces Eric Schwartzman of the On The Record Online's comment on Inside PR #13 about branding of social media inside agencies.

 

7:08 Terry and David discuss Eric's comment

 

9:42 Robert French supports posting comments as they arrive on the blog page

 

10:42 Terry mentions the latest special edition of Inside PR with Andrew Laing. K.D. Paine has recommended it to her readers. David brings up having met K.D. in Toronto recently.

 

13:25 David brings up Podcasters Across Borders and Terry talks about his time at the conference in Kingston, Ontario.

 

16:10 David and Terry discuss a post on Steve Rubel's blog about John Edwards' speech at Gnomedex.

 

19:45 Terry brings up Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's bare-bones podcast.

 

22:12 Terry brings up the Nokia blogger-relations program done by Matchstick, a word-of-mouth marketing company. There is some discussion as to how Matchstick could have done a better job communicating with the blogosphere. David points to Darren Barefoot and Boris Mann as examples of bloggers who were recruited but chose not to participate

 

 

32:14 Amy Cole comments on Chris Clarke's segment from Inside PR #13

 

33:33 Chris Clarke contributes his weekly segment

 

35:20 Terry identifies with Chris' segment and shares a story of his own from circa 1988

 

36:40 Terry invites comments to the blog page, comment line, or via email to insideprcomments@gmail.com

 

37:35 David closes the show and looks forward to Mitch Joel co-hosting next week

 

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This is a special edition of Inside PR. Terry and Dave have a 30-minute discussion with Andrew Laing, President of Cormex Research.  Discussion ranged from media coverage measurement tools to the need for agencies to incpororate measurement in their PR plans.
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Show Notes:

00:27  David opens the show and invites comments to the IPR comment line 206-600-4741.

1:31  David and Terry introduce and briefly discuss comments from Glen Myles, Erik Deutsch, Bryan Person, Joseph Thornley, and David Phillips.

13:48  David and Terry discuss McMaster University's new Masters in Communications Management and Terry's visit to Queen's University.

17:17  Terry updates listeners on the Podcasters Across Borders conference in Kingston where he recorded his end of IPR #13.

20:05  Terry reports that the long-awaited Inside PR-Managing the Gray mashup with C.C. Chapman has been delayed as C.C. was unable to attend Podcasters Across Borders.

20:52  Terry introduces PR Girlz, a new Thornley Fallis blog.

21:21  David and Terry discuss the show's major topic:  High Road Communications' decision to brand their social media offering separately under the already taken name Vox.

32:52  Terry introduces Chris Clarke's regular segment on his transition from PR student to agency account coordinator.

36:41  Terry closes the show and invites comments to the Inside PR blog, to insideprcomments@gmail.com, or to the IPR comment line at 206-600-4741.

 

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Show Notes:

00:28 Terry opens the show and notes the comment line is active and awaiting your calls. 206-600-4741

1:20 David talks about posting the audio comments to the blog as they are received as opposed to saving them up for the weekly podcast. What do the listeners think?

7:24 Tac Anderson audio comment about the necessity of PR people to know about and actually blog themselves. David and Terry discuss the value of learning about blogging and podcasting first-hand, but also recognize that it's not realistic to expect that every PR person will or should become a blogger/podcaster themselves.

15:24 Joe Thornley calls with congratulations on our 10th podcast and summarizes his visits to the mesh, Counselor's Academy and IABC conferences and notes the differences in interest in and uptake for social media at each. Joe blogged all three on ProPR.

19:02 Terry notes that the PRSA has started a blog...and called it For Immediate Release (whoops!)

20:43 Terry announces that comments from Mitch Joel and David Phillips are available on the Inside PR blog.

21:15 Terry references a string of e-mails that circulated among marketing and PR podcasters starting with Joe Jaffe who advised that he had nominated everyone for a Marketing Sherpa award. The e-mails were flying as discussions of a central blog to aggregate all the podcasts and a possible names for the group were floated.

23:03 Dave came up with an acronym for the group--iCAMP (International Communications and Marketing Podcasters), but Joe Jaffe's CAPOW (Communications and Advertising Podcasters Of the World) is pure brilliance.

25:33 Dave mentions that Shel Holtz was to make sure that Donna Papacosta and Heidi Miller are included in CAPOW.

25:40 Dave talks about visiting Halifax, Nova Scotia to talk at the Atlantic Communications Forum on June 20/21. Dave will be presenting on social media and blogs.

26:38 Terry will be attending Podcasters Across Borders in Kingston, Ontario where he will also meet with CC Chapman to record our first mash-up.

27:38 Dave mentions that he has received a track from the band Fair Ground.

29:08 Terry and Dave discuss the bain of the agency person's existence: billing our time/doing timesheets. We chat about fee-for-service, retainer, value-billing and coming in under-budget.

38:10 Dave introduces Chris Clarke's weekly segment on his entry into the PR agency world. This week he talks about his first two-weeks at Thornley Fallis.

42:08 Dave closes the show and reminds the listeners to leave their comments on the Inside PR blog, via e-mail at insideprcomments@gmail.com or by using the comment line at 206-600-4741.

42:34 Dave asks for feedback on the comments being posted on the blog and not exclusively on the podcast.

42:48 Dave introduces the Fair Ground track "Down In It." Vote for it on their site if you like it.

Intro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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Comments:  206-600-4741 & insideprcomments@gmail.com


Show Notes:

(Detailed show notes at Inside PR.)

00:24  David opens the show and tells listeners how they can comment.

03:07  Terry reads a comment from a listener in Beijing.

07:25  Terry reads excerpts from a lengthy and thoughtful comment from Jonathan Craig, a regular listener in Las Vegas.

10:33  David and Terry discuss related comments from leading social media educators Robert French and David Phillips.

20:05  Terry mentions IABC international conference in Vancouver and points listeners to the For Immediate Release podcast and the ProPR blog for more information about the conference.

22:05  David notes that CPRS Toronto is undertaking a members survey and urges participation.

23:27  David and Terry discuss an innovative use of social media by a new rock band called Fair Ground through their blog, Tracking the Single.

28:30  Terry introduces the show's discussion topic: how agencies prepare to welcome new employees.  Chris Clarke, the newest employee of Thornley Fallis, offers an introduction to his new segment on IPR before Dave and Terry get into their discussion.

39:02  Terry gives this week's offering from "PR Words to Banish."

39:30  Terry wraps up the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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Comments

206-600-4741 or insideprcomments@gmail.com

Show Notes

00:28    Terry opens the show and reminds listeners about the new comment line.  206-600-4741.

01:20.    Terry reads a comment from Owen Lystrup, a student at California State University regarding PR/Communciations schools that teach social media as part of the curriculum.  Terry and Dave discuss and suggest that the Inside PR listenership let us know of any PR schools are teaching or exploring social media.

06:40    Terry and Dave discuss a comment from Luke Armour regarding a New York Times article that details Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's approach to controlling the Parliament Hill press gallery. 

13:53    Dave notes that Mitch Joel of Twist Image (a Canadian version of Joe Jaffe) has launched a new podcast called Six Pixels of Separation.

15:45    Dave notes that Esther Buschbaum of Communications Meca will chair the next Counsellor's Academy conference in Mexico..

17:30    Dave and Terry discuss a new U.S. CSR study released by Fleishman-Hillard and the National Consumers League and contrast the results with recent Canadian research by Leger Marketing, Ipsos  and an article in Marketing Magazine.  Dave notes that Shel Holz blogged about the U.S. study.

32:40 Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to insideprcomments@gmail.com.

Intro/extro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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Our new IPR comment phone line is 206-600-4741.

Show Notes

00:30  Dave opens the show and notes that there will be a concerted effort to dial up the energy this week

01:51  Terry reads comments from Robert French and CC Chapman about IPR#7 that were forgotten in last week's show.

05:20  Terry notes that Ed Lee, one of our regular listeners, has started a blog and has added his voice to the Canadian PR blogosphere.

06:02  Dave discusses a post Colin McKay had on his Canuckflack blog about the client relationship building discussion during IPR#8. Dave admits to being too glib and clarifies what he meant by his "making clients look good" statement.

09:20  Dave and Terry discuss Google Analytics and how it can be used to provide data for analyzing the success of social media projects for clients.

15:53  Terry and Dave discuss the "end of the news release" topic and the SHIFT Communications template that is being touted as the "social media news release."

31:52  Dave suggests that Inside PR get a comment line and that it is included in the show notes so that it can be easily found by those listening on iPods in their vehicles.  The Comment Line number is 206-600-4741.

33:48  Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to insideprcomments@gmail.com.

Intro/extro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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00:28 David opens the show noting that we're again recording via Skype.

1:13 David and Terry discuss an e-mail comment from Francis Wooby in Iqaluit, our northernmost IPR listener.

5:43 Terry introduces comments from Sheldon Rose about the Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms, and Dan Brien on the notion of video podcasting.

10:10 David and Terry close the loop on the MESH conference held last week in Toronto. David mentions that the slides he used in his presentation on bloffing are available at PRWorks.

12:57 David notes that Joe Thornley is blogging from the Counselors Academy Spring Conference in Savannah, Georgia.

13:35 Terry and David discuss the show's major topic, the role of chemistry and personal fit in securing and sustaining long term client relationships. Listeners may wish to check out the following blogs/podcasts for more on the importance of relationships: David Maister, Manager Tools, and Todd Deferens.

28:14 Terry and Dave briefly discuss the second entry in a new IPR segment called "PR words to banish)

30:01 Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to www.insideprcomments@gmail.com.

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In this IPR Special Edition, Terry and Pat Gossage, the founder and President of Media Profile and former media advisor to Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, meet to discuss political communications among other things.

00:16  Terry introduces Pat Gossage

00:52  Terry asks Pat about his career in politics and how it led to public relations

05:41  Pat talks about what it was like working with Trudeau

07:40  Pat discusses the lessons clients can learn from Trudeau’s approach to the media

08:15  Terry asks Pat about the current Conservative government of Stephen Harper and its approach to the media

12:42  Terry and Pat talk about transparency and revisit politicians' dependence on key messages

17:05  Terry and Pat talk about the value (or lack thereof) of Q&A documents

18:24  Patrick offers some advice to young people interested in public relations

20:51  Terry thanks Pat Gossage and closes the show

Background on Patrick Gossage:

Patrick is one of Canada's most highly respected public relations practitioners. Drawing on his 35 years of experience in broadcasting, politics and communications, including serving as the prime minister's press secretary, he established Media Profile in 1986 and provides strategic communications advice and media training to numerous private and public sector clients.

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Show Notes - Inside PR #6 (37:37)
00:25  Terry opens the show
01:04  Dave notes IPR 6 is being recorded using Skype for the first time
01:48  Dave talks about the equipment upgrade
02:20  Dave offers help to any podcasters who want advice on podcasting over Skype; thanks Shel Holtz for the advice on set-up
03:31  Terry plays audio comments
04:38  Frances Wooby from Iqaluit, Nunavut
07:53  Luke Armour, Graduate Observations & Forward blogs
10:28  Terry and Dave discuss Luke's comments about mic levels and the value of student portfolios
15:17  Dave notes upcoming intervew with Stuart MacDonald from Toronto's mesh conference
17:52  Terry announces that he will interview Pat Gossage, president, Media Profile for upcoming IPR Special Edition
19:00  Terry and Dave discuss the challenges of hiring a senior practitioner at the agency
26:25  Terry say he's hiring for Dave's replacement.  Check www.thornleyfallis.com for details
26:43  Dave and Terry discuss Jeremy Pepper's recent post about whether PR people should specialize in blogging or add it to their repertoire alongside other core skills
31:48  Terry introduces a new segment:  "PR words to banish"
32:53  Terry and Dave discuss banishing the word "impactful"
34:10  Terry asks for suggestion for words to banish; notes comments can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or via e-mail/Waxmail at insideprcomments@gmail.com
35:28  Dave asks for suggestions on making the Skype podcast better
35:42  Dave mentions that he listened to two podcasts that weren't edited properly
37:05  Terry closes the show
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Show Notes -  Inside PR #5 (32:40)

00:30  Terry opens the show.

01:00  Terry breaks the news that David is moving on to join Fleishman-Hillard Canada.

04:36  Terry and Dave discuss listener comments from Caroline WilsonThornley Fallis colleague Keelan Green, and Mark Jones.

08:53  David and Terry talk about some other news items from the past week including Dave's appearance at the Canada Communications Conference, the CPRS Toronto ACE Awards, and early reaction in the blogosphere to the recently unveiled MRP measurement system.

19:36  Terry introduces a discussion on the implications, if any, of news reporters who also blog about the news stories they've written.  The topic was triggered by a three-way blog conversation Terry had on Robert French's Infopinion and Keith O'brien's Ubiquitous Marketing.

26:12  David and Terry discuss the declining utility of the traditional news conference.

31:10  Terry wraps up the show; reminder of feedback e-mail address insideprcomments@gmail.com; mention of Waxmail for sending audio comment, invitation to leave a comment on the Inside PR blog.

Intro/extro music:  Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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In this special edition of Inside PR, Terry continues his series of discussions with fellow PR agency presidents.  This week he spends just over 20 minutes in conversation with Trevor Campbell, President of Porter Novelli Canada, the Canadian arm of the large multinational PR agency.  Terry and Trevor tackle a variety of questions commonly posed by PR students or those looking to break into public relations.  The discussion unfolded as follows:

1:00    The Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms

2:40    Trevor's background and how he found himself in PR

4:40    Going client-side or agency

9:45    Generalist versus specialist

11:15  What agencies are looking for when hiring

15:00  Advice on approaching agencies

20:13  Big agency versus small agency

22:47  Wrap-up

Background on Trevor Campbell

As president of Porter Novelli Canada, Trevor is responsible for directing and leading the agency and managing its growth. His public relations success includes working in the financial services, technology, consumer, entertainment, and not-for-profit sectors where he has built corporate brands and managed reputations for ATI, Celestica and CIBC. Trevor has also delivered integrated marketing programs for Bell Canada and Hewlett-Packard, and boasts expertise in corporate communications and marketing communications via direct-to-business and direct-to-consumer events and programs.
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In IPR #4 we deal with listener comments up front before heading into our two major topics of discussion, the new standardized model for evaluating media coverage launched in Toronto on April 20th, and �¢??tis the season for PR interns.

You can listen to the show with the player above, or download or subscribe to the feed directly here or with the links in the sidebar.

Show Notes -  Inside PR #3 (32 minutes)

00:33  Dave opens the show and welcomes (back) listeners

00:58  Terry introduces a comment from Robert French

1:29    David reminds listeners how they can comment on IPR

2:02    Terry notes second listener comment from London, Ontario PR student Chris Clarke and Dave recounts a story about Chris and how he cracked the cryptic secret word code on Joseph JaffeÃ?¢??s podcast Across the Sound

5:09    Terry and David discuss the just-launched Media Relations Rating Points system, dubbed MRP for short;  MRP is a new standardized system for evaluating media coverage and has been endorsed by the Canadian Public Relations Society, IABC Toronto

16:50  Two comments recorded at the MRP launch event from Mike Abbass from Strategic Objectives and Rachel Douglas from Cara Operations, both of whom served on the CPRS Measurement Committee

17:55  Terry invites comments on the new MRP system, particularly from listeners outside of Canada

19:05  Terry and Dave discuss PR interns and how they can leave the right impression with their host agencies and perhaps snag a fulltime position

27:35  Terry introduces an excerpt from the next IPR Special Edition, a discussion with Trevor Campbell, President of Porter Novelli Canada

29:00  Terry and Dave briefly revisit the Starwood Hotel blog issue discussed on IPR #3

30:37  Terry wraps up the show; reminder of feedback mail address insideprcomments@gmail.com; mention of Waxmail for sending audio comments

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In this special edition of Inside PR, Terry continues his series of discussions with fellow PR agency presidents.  This week he spends just over 25 minutes in conversation with Pat Mcnamara, President and founder of Apex Public Relations in Toronto.  In a wide-ranging discussion, Terry and Pat kick around how to build a PR agency from the ground up and how to solve the mystery of successful new business development.  The conversation unfolded as follows:

1:00    Pat McNamara's PR journey

2:35    Why would anyone start their own agency? (beyond "because I'm crazy")

5:35    How not to leave an agency

7:13    Various approaches to building an agency

10:10  The importance of "culture" in a successful agency

16:50  The mysteries of new business development

22:30  The power of relationships

25:55  Wrap-up

Background on Pat McNamara

Pat McNamara founded APEX Public Relations in 1998. As a communications professional with more than 20 years of experience, she provides senior client counsel in consumer marketing and corporate communication to leading organizations including Absolut, Bank of Montreal, Coca-Cola, Levi Strauss & Co., Kellogg's and Tetra Pak. McNamara was recently recognized as one of Canada's Top 100 Women Entrepreneurs by Canadian Business magazine.

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Show Notes -  Inside PR #3 (32 minutes)

  :30   Dave opens the show and announces IPR Special Edition podcasts

2:05    Terry introduces listener comments from Robert French and Amy Cole

6:43    Terry thanks Joseph Jaffe for playing our IPR promo and for his kind words on Across the Sound #27

7:50    Dave talks about his blog, PR Works, commends Humber College for exploring blogging, and notes the recent influx of student questions

12:20  Dave talks about the launch of the MRP media relations measurement system on April 20th, in Toronto, and about upcoming speaking engagements

14:17  Terry notes that For Immediate Release has some Canadian content this week through an interview with David Bradfield, a big wheel at iStudio in Toronto

15:30  Dave mentions that Mark Evans, well known Canadian blogger, has launched a podcast

16:15  Dave and Terry briefly discuss the new Starwood Hotels blog (or pretend-blog) called The Lobby

18:20  Terry reminds listeners about the Podcasters Across Borders meet-up in Kingston, June 23rd-24th

18:40  Dave and Terry discuss agency culture and its importance in retaining staff and building a successful firm

20:54   Brief interview clip from Pat McNamara, President and founder of Apex Public Relations, from upcoming Inside PR Special Edition

30:05  Terry and Dave wrap up the show; reminder of feedback mail address insideprcomments@gmail.com; mention of Waxmail for sending audio comments

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In this special edition of Inside PR, Terry spends just over 20 minutes in conversation with Susanne Courtney, founder and President of Courtney Rainey Group, a full service public relations agency in Toronto.  Terry and Susanne share their insights on a range of issues including PR’s reputation, the creation of the Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms, the integration of PR in business school curricula, the emerging role of PR in building trust and reputation, community college PR programs, and the new Media Relations Ratings Points measurement system to be unveiled on April 20th in Toronto.

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Inside PR #1

  1. Introduction to the podcast.
  2. Discussion of show format.
  3. Establishment of Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms.
  4. mesh conference in Toronto
  5. A new philosophy for media training

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